Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Stephens High School, Hickory, North Carolina

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was No consensus - default to keep Jtkiefer^{T | C | @} ---- 00:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

St. Stephens High School, Hickory, North Carolina[edit]

NN, D ComCat 02:13, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom Bwithh 02:37, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The nominator knows that this won't be deleted and should be reprimanded for wasting other wikipedian's time. CalJW 02:53, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Your vote is to delete this article and yet, you complain that the nomination is a waste of time. I wonder if either your vote or your comments are misplaced? -- malo ^(talk)/_(contribs) 04:13, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. Durova 03:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Just a high school, doing the groovy things that high schools do. Much like the last and the next. Geogre 03:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Nominator has a history of frivolous nominations. Silensor 04:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Having a history of friviolous nominations is no reason to oppose a nomination. It's about the article. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The vote is about the nomination, not the nominator. FYI...
- There are approximately 6 billion human beings on earth. Conservatively, estimate that 1 billion of those are of primary or secondary school age. Again conservatively, estimate that only half of those actually attend school. If every school has 1000 students, then that presents 500,000 separate article candidates for the schools category alone. This number is equal to 60% of the total current English language articles and nearly seven times the entire Spanish language Wikipedia. In order to keep such a group updated it would take 685 editors each verifying and editing one article every day without holiday for two years. Durova 05:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - We'd better start deleting all those American villages then, in case people start adding the 500,000 villages in India. Kappa 12:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Good idea. A village of 250 people is not notable, and Wikipedia is not a census database. When would you like us to start? — Haeleth Talk 18:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      - Cities, towns, and villages can be updated by bots. Not so with schools. Durova 03:12, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Some very productive discussion is going on at Wikipedia talk:Schools. Please join us and help shape future policy regarding school articles. D e nni ☯ 05:15, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nothing to see here. Fine school, I'm sure, but not encyclopedic. - brenneman ^(t)^(c) 06:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
keep please this is a good article and we have a consensus not to erase schools now Yuckfoo 06:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
delete - no known notable alumni. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 06:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. --Nlu 06:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Dlyons493 Talk 08:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC) (out of seq keep vote to reiterate a point).[reply]
Merge with Hickory, North Carolina. See Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Merge. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:09, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this appears to be one of the highest ranking schools within the state of North Carolina. Yamaguchi先生 09:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as no notability asserted. Marskell 10:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep "Today the school is rated in the top ten percentile of all schools within the state of North Carolina." Based on what? Test scores, graduation rate, number of students? This needs to be explained. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- That's just one of the problems with school rankings. SAT score, graduation rate, retention, college placement, performance on state-wide exit exams, number of "well qualified teachers" (per No Child), teacher/student ratio, etc. are all ways to be "best" or "worst," which is one of many reasons that these claims really shouldn't figure in the debate over the worth of an article on a public high school. (I've lived in 3 states that were "48th in the nation" in public education.) Geogre 15:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, another identikit article of no non-local interest. "The colors of the school are red, black, gray and white." Awesome! --Last Malthusian 11:01, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nn school. Dottore So 11:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nn school. Catchpole 11:59, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Kappa 12:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Valid article with useful information. Carina22 12:40, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Nominator has history of AFD abuse, please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/ComCat. Hipocrite - «Talk» 13:44, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Objection, the nominator is not on trial. Chris talk back 12:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as above. Trollderella 16:14, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, notable. Christopher Parham (talk) 16:21, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Merge Some very productive discussion is going on at Wikipedia talk:Schools. Please join us and help shape future policy regarding school articles. David D. (Talk) 17:29, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, all high schools with 3+ sentence verifiable articles.Gateman1997 17:48, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Gateman and Wikipedia talk:Schools. High schools are notable --Jaranda(^{watz sup}) 17:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete in an ideal parallel universe where Wikipedia is run on encyclopedic principles. Merge into a town or school district article in a slightly less ideal parallel universe where school inclusionists exist but are willing to listen to reason and consider compromise. Sadly, in this universe, U.S. high schools will inevitably be kept. — Haeleth Talk 18:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Vote withdrawn after reading the debates at Wikipedia talk:Schools, and apologies to the "keep" voters for my failure to assume good faith. No vote while I rethink my position on schools. And I strongly encourage all voters, whatever they have voted, to read Wikipedia talk:Schools#Summary, proposal if they have not done so already. — Haeleth Talk 20:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's well gone over. There is not and will be no consensus. You either find them notable or you don't. Marskell 22:13, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - This is of course the minority opinion. So far the majority has been coming to a very good consensus over at WP:SCH that is working for all sides. I encourage everyone to contribute.Gateman1997 03:38, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no listed notable graduates, nor any other particular indication of naotability given. DES ^(talk) 18:13, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Consensus on keeping HS articles has seemingly been met with no consensus being the consensus. Keep this and all verifiable HSs until this is settled once and for all, likely in a steel-cage death match. Youngamerican 18:55, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Haeleth. Nandesuka 20:00, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep until a good reason is advanced not to. Turnstep 01:54, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The nominator knows that this won't be deleted and that this nomination is a waste of time. But that doesn't mean there's consensus. Gazpacho 07:36, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep piling on keeps. —RaD Man (talk) 09:58, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Pointless nomination. --Andylkl 17:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. -- DS1953 [[User talk:DS1953|<sup>talk</sup>]] 02:13, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
delete no claim of notability Pete.Hurd 18:41, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.