Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Springdale Mall

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 03:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Springdale Mall[edit]

Dead mall in Alabama, no notability to speak of. Most of the complex has been replaced with a Sam's Club. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 23:30, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Opening in 1959, Springdale Plaza is one of the oldest regional shopping centers along the Gulf Coast. It was anchored by one of the largest department stores in the Southeast, as the flagship Gayfers eventually exceeded 270,000 square feet in size. NitekMobilian (talk) 03:16, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- look at Category:Defunct shopping malls in the United States and tell me that all of those are not notable. Just because something has ceased to exist does not mean it is non notable. P.Shack (talk) 00:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is basically what your argument boils down to. The fact that it's a defunct mall isn't per se why I nominated it for AfD -- I nominated the page because its subject doesn't seem to have any coverage in reliable sources. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 00:15, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have added a Rescue tag. Bearian'sBooties (talk) 02:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There seems enough information for sourcing. Defunct does not mean non-notable. Notability is permanent, which is a good policy because otherwise WP would be the encyclopedia of what happens to be notable this month, rather than what's notable. Not all defunct malls are notable, not all are non-notable, and arguments relying on either of these statements will give inappropriate results. DGG (talk) 05:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep With a gross leasable area of nearly 800,000, this is a very large mall, dead or alive. Alansohn (talk) 06:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 13:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 13:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I added a reliable source to the article; when I'm more coherent I'll try to clean up the prose and add some {{fact}} tags. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Some clarification: The first big box store to open at Springdale following the debut of Barnes & Noble was Old Navy, which opened in the fall of 1996. Montgomery Ward ceased operations at Springdale in the fall of 1998. Burlington Coat Factory does not extend into the former Toys R Us space. NitekMobilian (talk) 22:48, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - conversion malls are notable. sources are present. dead/alive argument is a red herring. Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 04:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.