Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Special school

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The result was keep. Black Kite 10:49, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special school[edit]

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When I searched for "special school" on Google, [1] it only relates in the US. The content of the article is not the reason for deletion but about the "differing perspectives on how to edit an ideal encyclopedia." These reasons should be taken as an argument for deletion of this topic. Help save Wikipedia by deleting one more useless education-related article. Rovea (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closing admin I have offered arguments that explain why the article should be deleted. Please delete rather redirect. Redirect simply allows the topic to still exist on Wikipedia. I or someone else will add all of the information on Special school to Special education. Rovea (talk) 16:17, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Essentially duplicates information already covered in Special_education but with a focus on the physical building. GreyWyvern^⚒ 17:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep In order to be a candidate for deletion something needs to be beyond repair. This is not beyond repair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PÆonU (talk • contribs) 19:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete duplication of effort. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
Delete - Could be handled as a DICDEF. This article has lots of issues, notably a lack of reliable sources and rampant original research. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Special education which already covers this subject and is referenced. -- Whpq (talk) 17:04, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Special education contains three sentences related to this topic, and zero relevant references. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Other editors have said that this topic is a duplication of effort. Why should we focus on special school when it is exactly like special education? Wikipedia is not "a dumping ground for facts". We should try to expand special education rather than a smaller article that will only further to confuse the reader. It is redundant to repeat the same information over and over. We can add all of the information from special school into special education. Rovea (talk) 20:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and hope for improvement. Like so many other subjects, it is difficult to cover special education in a way that is not country-specific. As a reader in England, Special school seems fine to me as a start-up. Special education is not significantly better sourced, is written in the same style, and (being longer) contains more that is country specific. Sussexonian (talk) 23:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. "Special school" means "separate school for students with disabilities". It is not a US-specific concept (or name): practically every country in the world has at least one special school right now, despite the trend away from them. They vary in type -- there are residential schools, private schools, part-time schools (common among US schools for Deaf students), schools that specialize in specific disabilities like blindness, schools that take severely disabled students from a given region -- but they exist pretty much everywhere. A simple internet search on the name "special school" is unlikely to be useful, but sources clearly do exist, e.g., ISBN 9780195176032 p 139, which summarizes arguments in favor of them for specific student groups. Wikipedia has dozens of articles at Category:Special schools on individual special schools. It would be odd to decide that the individual institutions are encyclopedic, but what they are isn't. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:38, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- If we can't find any sources dealing with "special school" in a worldwide view, then it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Special school is a school that addresses the needs of disabled students. Doesn't special education cover all that? The term special school is not really neutral. Perhaps the term "special education school" would be better in the worldwide view. Special school can easily be confused with the term "alternative school". Alternative schools can be attended by regular education students. To differentiate between the two, it should be called "Special education school". It is very clear which means a school only for students with special needs. Special school is just very trivial and should be merged with special education. In fact, school articles (elementary, middle, high schools) altogether are trivial but I'm not going to get into that. Special school is just pushing it too far. Not all students are provided with special education. If students really do not want it, then they don't have to. If they get expelled from school, that's that. No special education or compulsory education is required. Life is what you make it. Programs in school don't guarantee any success for students. Wikipedia is not written in a neutral point of view by adding all these trivial school-related articles. A student who is expelled from high school would not be interested in reading about special education or their school. Rovea (talk) 20:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep This most certainly meets WP:N stardards. I believe that this does not fall under WP:DICDEF as Scjessey argued. Rovea - special education is a service given in school systems, and when special education services have their own school, this is called a special school. On the other hand, I would have no issue with a move to the name "Special education school", but definitely keep the article itself. [Belinrahs|^talktome⁄ _ididit] 17:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I agree with WhatamIdoing's comments. Furthermore it is completely illogical to propose to delete the article on "special school" but to have a separate school on a "resource room" which only exists within a special school. Special school is an internationally recognised term. I've never heard of such schools being called special education schools, which I suspect is a term only used in the US, so I would not support a page move. Dahliarose (talk) 01:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.