Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South East Scotland

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The result was delete. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

South East Scotland[edit]

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OR: no indication that the actual term is in any currency, for this specification of the area or any other. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:10, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Today's addition to the article of a list of organisations which have geographical subdivisions designated as being for "South East Scotland" illustrates that the term only ever has any meaning within the context of each individual organisation itself. Most, per the article intro, include the Scottish Borders, East Lothian, Midlothian and Edinburgh but most also include any of Fife, West Lothian, Perthshire, Dundee, Clackmannan, Stirlingshire and/or Dumfries and Galloway. There is nothing approaching a generally common meaning. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:42, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- WP:OR. A rather poor collection of miscellaneous information for an area for which there is no robust (generally accepted definition. It might be redueced to a dabpage for organisations with with "South East Scotland" branches, but that would require there tobe articles on the brnaches, not merely on the organisations generally. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:05, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fair enough. I originally started the article, because I thought the expression South East Scotland might be useful from a historical perspective as a neutral term to describe an area which changed from being an area dominated by a Britonnic people, language and culture to one controlled by Anglo Saxons with an Anglic culture (although a significant number of Britonnic place-names were retained up to the present day e.g. Penicuik), only for it to be absorbed into the Kingdom of Scotland, albeit retaining its distinctive Anglic nature at a time when most of Scotland was dominated by Gaelic culture. I was always fully aware that it is not commonly used, but seeing as I thought the area, which transcends local government boundaries, both then and now, was never-the-less distinct from a historical perspective I persisted. Apparently I was wrong. As a local, I probably am a little biased. I suppose Lothian and Borders will have to suffice as a description for the area (although seeing as Lothian and Borders Police no longer exists maybe nobody will talk about that in the future either). Sorry for all the bother I gave everyone with this. Robbiesergent (talk) 20:16, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The greatest of respect to you for being open to these arguments regarding an article to which you've clearly devoted significant effort. Very refreshing. All the best. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:38, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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