Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sociology category tree

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was move to Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/Category tree. The consensus is clear this article should be moved to the Project namespace. Nominator agrees, and the delete and keep !voters also suggest that it should be placed into WikiProject Sociology. I see no point in letting this continue the full 7 days. (non-admin closure) Michaelzeng7 (talk) 21:28, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sociology category tree[edit]

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Fails WP:N and WP:SELFREF. If people want to move through the category structure, they can use categories... Izno (talk) 02:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If those aren't enough, it's basically a soft WP:XNR. --Izno (talk) 02:59, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Adamc714 (talk) 15:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Capricious comments in AFD discussions without any rationale are dismissed without consideration. Toddst1 (talk) 16:02, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L Faraone 01:23, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Page has been re-categorized as a Project-class article. It is a useful page for working on Wikiproject Sociology.Meclee (talk) 15:02, 24 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 00:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Wikipedia namespace, under WikiProject Sociology somewhere, or merge to Outline of sociology. Agree with nom it's mostly useless and non-notable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I don't see a need for an encyclopedia article on the topic. I've added a link to the tree under 'Categories' on the WikiProject Sociology project page. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm confused, because below the AfD tag it says not to nominate the page for deletion. Was that notice there before the article was nominated? epzik8 20:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Right but that notice isn't policy based. You can't prevent an article from being discussed; that goes against all the founding principles. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 23:42, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Any item on Wikipedia can be brought for discussion to a deletion venue. "Don't nominate for deletion" has no basis in policy, as Michaelzeng7 says. --Izno (talk) 22:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm confused, as well. It's already been re-categorized as a Project-class article. So, is there a precedent that any Project-class article can be called for deletion by anyone, even if they are not working on the Project? If it is Project class and useful to even one person working on the project, who cares? I don't work as often on WikiProject Sociology right now, but it is useful when I do and may be useful to others as well. The page takes almost no server space and only a bit of processing time when it is refreshed. I am curious as to why others are so bent on deletion. Meclee (talk) 18:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The following is a direct quote from WP:PJ: "A WikiProject's pages are not used for writing encyclopedia articles directly, but as resources to help coordinate and organize the group's efforts at creating and improving articles. WikiProjects often write advice for editors, use bots to track what is happening at articles of interest to the group, and create lists of tools and templates their members commonly use." (emphasis added). Meclee (talk) 22:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you want, I can see this page being moved to a subpage of the WikiProject, if indeed you believe it is useful for the project. As it is now, you've both a) used a category which is not meant for article space, and b) the article itself is not notable (largely because it is self referential). Would Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/Category tree work for you? --Izno (talk) 22:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a sensible solution. Thank you! Meclee (talk) 00:45, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.