Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sick Wid It Records

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The result was merge to E-40. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 06:55, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sick Wid It Records[edit]

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There is no substantive coverage of this company per se in reliable sources, only incidental mention of it in coverage of its artists. The article itself is simply an unverified laundry list of artists. Notability isn't inherited; this fails WP:GNG, WP:NCORP. PROD was removed without addressing the issues therein ("list articles like these are handy to have"). Yappy2bhere (talk) 20:21, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:08, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:08, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:08, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep or Merge with E-40 as long as significant improvements are made to the content and sourcing to avoid WP:NOTCATALOG. The label has received significant main stream coverage in reliable sources but rarely on its own terms. Almost all references are in media centred on E-40, not specifically about the label. The label is significant to E-40's career and that of other rappers so it should definitely be covered somewhat comprehensively somewhere. See example sources here: [1] [2] [3] [4] Vladimir.copic (talk) 00:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: some other good sources (the first one particularly notes the label's importance in the history of hip-hop labels): [5] [6] Vladimir.copic (talk) 01:08, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Article needs some clean-up by removing the discography per WP:NOTCATALOG and adding some history. Other than that, it's good enough to pass WP:GNG with reliable sources indicated by Vladimir.copic. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 10:30, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All trivial mentions. You say "and adding some history," but there are no sources with which to improve the article. You've just read 6 sources. Do you know 3 facts about the label besides "It was started by E40?" Yappy2bhere (talk) 11:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 23:33, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with E-40 if there's really no other way to expand or improve the article. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 02:43, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets WP:GNG with sources presented by Vladimir. They're non-trivial and reliable enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 03:56, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Here's what those sources actually say:

[1] "Sick Wid It Records, founded in 1989 by ... E-40, has left its mark... [two label founders] have acknowledged they learned a lot ... from the strategies that 40 implemented at Sick Wid It."
[2] "E-40 is the founder of Sick Wid It Records ... [His traits] are embodied by his homegrown record label, Sick Wid It Records."
[3] "[E-40] pioneered the 'rapper as independent label head' model with Sick Wid It Records, forcing the industry to take notice when his 1993 EP [succeeded] with no major-label distribution deal."
[4] "E-40 ... his sister, his brother, and his cousin ... started their own company, Sick Wid It, and hawked tapes out of the trunk of their car ... As a result of the huge success of [E-40's] The Mailman, Jive licensed Sick Wid It and distributed their product internationally."
[5] "[M]edia monopolies snapped up ... indie labels like ... E-40's Sick Wid It Records"
[6] "E40 ... started his own independent Sick Wid It Records in 1990... [H]e subsequently signed a distribution deal with [Jive Records] for Sick Wid It's catalog."

So what we know about the company is this:

(1) Founded in 1989 (or maybe 1990)...
(2) by E-40 (or maybe E-40 and kin).
(3) Jive licensed the catalog on the strength of a successful E-40 song...
~~(4) The label was sold to a "media monopoly".~~ (Maybe; source is spongy on that point.)

That's it; the article won't be any more than that. Sources disagree on the first two facts, the last fact is supported with weasel-words (this label, or "like" this label? which "media monopoly") and requires better sourcing. Sources [2]-[6] are clearly incidental mentions of the label in stories about E-40, and all six sources together aren't sufficient to write a proper article. (Unless I just did, in which case nm.) Yappy2bhere (talk) 18:23, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sick Wid It Records wasn't sold; it's still owned by E-40 [7]. Strike ~~[5]~~ as a reliable source. Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:45, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.