Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Show Me Love (t.A.T.u. song)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete John Vandenberg (talk) 17:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Show Me Love (t.A.T.u. song)[edit]

Non-notable, fails WP:Music, neither of the source links are working Benjamin ^{Scrīptum est - Fecī} 02:14, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This song's notability is nowt demonstrated. It was not released as a single, and it does not matter that it was at one point considered for release. I see no evidence that it was released a promotional CD, and even if it was, it didn't chart. Much of the article is rambling about a music video that was never released. Also, neither of the links are working, which seems a bit suspicious to me. Overall, not notable, never released as single, fails WP:Music: "Most songs do not merit an article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for a prominent album or for the artist who wrote or prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. A separate article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article..." This song has not been ranked on national or significant music charts, has not won significant awards or honors, and, to my knowledge, has not been performed independently by several notable artists, bands, or groups. I will withdraw my nomination if this can be well-sourced and it's notability firmly proven. Benjamin ^{Scrīptum est - Fecī} 02:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Er, did you mean "now demonstrated" or "not demonstrated"? —Quasirandom (talk) 02:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes...good spotting that. Benjamin ^{Scrīptum est - Fecī} 02:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - scraped single fails notablity. half a music video doesn't change anything. unless the single is eventually released, this should just redirect back to the album --T-rex 06:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep or merge. In answer to Bmrbarre's scepticism about the links, they had been wrongly formatted. I've fixed the BBC News link, so that's one reliable source towards notability, but the other one seems to require membership to view. While a scrapped single wouldn't normally be notable, a video shoot making the news seems to me to indicate material worth keeping. If the article is not kept, there is material that definitely needs to be merged into the album article. Bondegezou (talk) 14:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I've added another citation, althought the article could certainly do with more work. Bondegezou (talk) 14:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment. I'm pretty sure that an unreleased music video, even one story about it, does not count as notable, no matter how well it is sourced. To quote what Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, "Someone or something that has been in the news for a brief period is not necessarily a suitable subject for an article in their own right." [1] Also, to quote Wikipedia:Notability, "A short burst of news reports about a topic does not necessarily constitute evidence of long-term notability." [2]I think that a mention (albeit by the BBC) about the shoot an unreleased music video either does not constitute notability, or it is something that is in the news for a brief period, and therefore not necessarily suitable for an article in its own right. Perhaps something should be mentioned about this song on the TATU (or however the name should be written) page, but this song does not deserve its own page. Benjamin ^{Scrīptum est - Fecī} 02:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well the fact that the video wasn't released but was being made makes this song unusual, and thus notable. There are information about that it people might want, and this page would be good for that.

This is the video which was never released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGC7pYVpbEQ&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.112.233 (talk) 22:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also as far as I know, that is the official leaked video, and not a fan compilation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.112.233 (talk) 22:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to the article (though this is unsourced), "Some footage has made its way to the Internet in recent years, compiled of fan videos shot on location and unused official footage, but the completed video has never been released or leaked." Therefore, someone's wrong. Benjamin ^{Scrīptum est - Fecī} 00:35, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - this is a cancelled single. The controversy is over the proposed video not the single. In my view the controversy doesn't make an unreleased single notable but mention can sensibly be made in the t.A.T.u. page. TerriersFan (talk) 17:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article is incorrect. The video contains footage (in its entirety, footage in the video has never before been seen) that was never publicly released anywhere else, for example, from the stars' personal cams, and thus cannot be a fan video. The shooting was never finished, and as a result this video is not the as the producers intended. That's why it was never released in an official form. But it is certain that the management/producers made this video, either that or their video editor just got really bored. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.107.95 (talk) 00:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]