Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shoaib Akram

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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 09:45, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shoaib Akram[edit]

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Not a notable Player per WP:GNG. Also couldn't find much during WP:BEFORE. Seems like a minor, non-notable player.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Iitianeditor (talk • contribs) 18:42, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I also couldn't anything substantial about this gentleman. wikitigresito (talk) 19:52, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As per wiki WP:CRIN he has appeared as a player or umpire in at least one cricket match that is judged by a substantial secondary source to have been played at the highest international or domestic level. So he qualifies as per that. Also ESPN cricnfo is a reliable source so it has at least 1. I suggest expanding the page rather than deleting it as domestic cricketers are notable. CreativeNorth (talk) 12:19, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- As always, WP:CRIN only establishes a presumption of notability. However, I only see references to indiscriminate stats websites. As there does not seem to be anything close to substantial, in-depth coverage, the subject is very far from meeting GNG and thus the article should be deleted. wikitigresito (talk) 13:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep has played in five professional cricket matches and thus satisfies WP:CRIN. That's also not to say sources in Urdu or other regional languages don't also exist, we write off these cricketers too quickly simply because they're not covered in English sources. StickyWicket (talk) 12:06, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not a single such source has ever been found for any of these obscure cricketers. Seems a stretch, and rather hopeful (at best), that one or more could be found, or even exist, in this instance. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 09:07, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 06:05, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; fails WP:BLP/WP:GNG/WP:BIO as there is no significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject. Also, no list to merge into. The presumption of notability afforded by NCRIC/CRIN is unreliable at best, and discussions are ongoing at WT:NSPORT on how to rewrite them; as such arguments based on them should probably be disregarded at this time. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 15:15, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A listing on ESPN's statistics site proves he exists, not that he's notable. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:31, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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