Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shinmeiryuu

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 04:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shinmeiryuu[edit]

Unreferenced, Much of the article is WP:OR, mostly in-universe and has Questionable notability Dandy Sephy (talk) 05:08, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Those are reasons for improvement, not deletion. This fictional martial arts school features prominantly in two different notable series Love Hina and Negima by the notable mangaka Ken Akamatsu. Edward321 (talk)

It's not prominent in Love Hina though, the school or the teachings are barely mentioned. it may be more prominent in negima, but that needs to be proved. Much of the article is based on unverifiable links between the two fictional universes, and is original research. Improvement would mean removing most of the article, leaving us with a list of techniques with questionable notability. Not only that but its been tagged for these issues for over a year. We don't have an article for Hiten Mitsurugi-Ryū from Rurouni Kenshin, which is vastly more notable and forms the basis of much of it's parent series. Removing the OR and rewriting it to be less in-universe would certainly be an improvement, but I'm not convinced this will make the article of more benefit Dandy Sephy (talk) 15:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Unless it's become more prominent in the latter chapters that haven't been translated into English, it's less prominent in Negima then it is in Love Hina. In short, it is very rarely mentioned. --Farix (Talk) 04:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No evidence of notability outside the fictional work. Actually plays a minor role in Love Hina and is just briefly referenced to in Negima!. --Farix (Talk) 04:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Aitias // discussion 00:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it's WP:INTERESTING but I see no evidence that it's notable or a fork of something like the "Akamatsu-verse" referred to there; plus, it seems to be misspelled (an extra u at the end). Also seems to have elements of at least WP:SYNTH. Perhaps correct the spelling and rd to the author's page; if it covers a few series, it's likely worth a rd. JJL (talk) 00:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doubling the u is a valid alternate way of representing ū in Hepburn romanization, and common when typing without access to high ASCII characters. It is quite possible it has been so romanized in at least one official translation. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment the martial arts pages widely use e.g. Isshin-ryū, Uechi-ryū for this. (I think it comes from the Japan WikiProject, not the martial arts one, but don't precisely recall.) So, it's not consistent with the treatment of historical martial arts at least. JJL (talk) 14:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - A point. Though in this case, I think the guideline to follow is the one saying use the spelling of an official translation, if one exists. If we keep it at all. —Quasirandom (talk) 00:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.