Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheri Markose

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The result was keep. Shereth 18:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sheri Markose[edit]

non-notable academic: the vast majority of her papers have single-digit citation figures, and she gets not a single g-news hit. Article is a close copy of her faculty page at Essex. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 08:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep pending further investigation. Personal chair and head of small department at mid-ranking U.K. university. Prof rank at such is equivalent to upper half of that in U.S. universities. About to publish a book with high prestige Cambridge University Press. Citations are odd. Google gives 1,500 hits, Google Scholar:author gives 65 hits, h = 9, top cites 39, 23, 18. However WoK gives only 10 papers with 3 cites between them. I am not familiar with publication patterns in quantitative finance but there seems to be something odd here. Xxanthippe (talk) 11:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC).[reply]
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According to RAE(Research Assessment Exercise) which focuses mainly on the research quality, University of Essex(Economics department), has got 3rd position, so I guess it would not be a mid-ranking U.K university. --Zeroxis (talk) 23:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I didn't know that. Citations are still a mystery. It could be that practitioners in the very new discipline of quantitative finance aim their research at other than the traditional academic journals. DGG is needed here. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC).[reply]

I found out that she was involved recently in projects for government agencies this may be a reason for the small number of publications - check this one, bottom of the page, Agent-Based Modelling - she's referred to as a leading academic by UK Government's Foresight Programme, which is an important one: Foresight link

--Makum (talk) 12:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete Scopus shows 14 papers, but with highest counts as 23, 6, 6. In the areas she's working there can be many informal publications - Repec is the right database to bring them together, but none of them show many citations either. As for the directorship of the Centre, it's a Centre within her university only. --someone in the subject could judge that part of things & any influence on policy better than I can. DGG (talk) 18:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Doesn't she meet WP:PROF #5? Fences&Windows 21:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the answer is that she does not. Xxanthippe writes that she holds a personal chair and is head of department -- but I see no evidence that either is true, see the econ dept web site. Even the article here doesn't make either of these claims. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 08:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See the reference on her article page [[1]]. Personal chair? Can't remember where I found it. Xxanthippe (talk) 09:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC).[reply]

What am I meant to see there? I'm not seeing either head of department or personal chair. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 10:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try this [2] then. Xxanthippe (talk) 10:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC).[reply]

No indication of head of department or personal chair there, either. Anyway, the link to the econ department [3] shows that she is not head of department; that would be Melvyn Coles. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 11:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Notice her paper was the most downloaded article from prestigious Royal Economic Society in October 2006 which is not the case of non-notable academics--Makum (talk) 23:46, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Thanks to contributions from other editors I think the mystery of the missing citations is solved. The group led by the subject appears to be operating as a Think Tank and is mostly engaged in making policy submissions to government and other organisations on economic matters rather than acting as an academic research group whose aim is to notch up citations in academic journals. Whether they will be able to save the British economy from itself is another (off topic) matter. Passes on WP:Prof #7 and 1,500 Ghits for WP:Notability (people). Xxanthippe (talk) 11:59, 27 June 2009 (UTC).[reply]
- I'm genuinely puzzled by this. Since when do we count regular google hits? WP:BIO specifically disallows it. Where is the evidence of "substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity"? I'll repeat the point that a gnews search on her name produces precisely zero results. Where are the reliable sources for writing an article here? Nomoskedasticity (talk) 12:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I invite Xxanthippe to strike or revise claims that are either untrue (head of department), unsupported (personal chair, substantial impact) or irrelevant (# of ghits). Are there any *actual* grounds for keeping this article? Nomoskedasticity (talk) 22:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Nomoskedasticity, It's not said that she is the head of department, apparently she is Founder, Director of the Center for Computational Finance and Economics Agents at University of Essex,[4].--Zeroxis (talk) 12:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep refering to WP page about Agent-Based Computational Economics her paper "Advances in experimental and agent-based modelling" is being referred to, as this field is quite new, I guess her contribution to this field could be considered as notable.--Zeroxis (talk) 12:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The personal chair (this page, under "overview") at a well-regarded econ department is enough per WP:PROF #5: it indicates that others more expert in her subject area have judged her and found her work to be significant. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, there it is, personal chair -- in fact, there is the source that has been copied into the Wikipedia article here, the source for the copyvio and autobiography... Nomoskedasticity (talk) 12:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep The source cited by David Epstein appears to show that she meets PROF#5 by being awarded a personal chair. Eluchil404 (talk) 10:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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