Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shen Chuan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 04:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Shen Chuan

Advertising for non-notable style of martial arts developed in Texas. I'm no expert, but this doesn't appear to have spread very far beyond the inventor's own gym business. He's notable enough himself but that doesn't convince me about this article. Google hits are mostly on completely different subjects. Mereda 15:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Joe Lansdale is notable for being an author, not a martial artist. The fact that he doesn't even know that the "shen" he uses doesn't really translate into spirit, well... ColourBurst 18:16, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Danny Lilithborne 00:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
• Remain. This article was already here when I edited it a few days ago. I guess I have an interest in it, as I'm a student of Joe Lansdale and administer our website in my spare time and am disclosing that fact per wiki rules.

People in martial arts circles are always asking what exactly is Shen Chuan. A few have advised to explain it in Wikipedia. I did not know what that was until coming here. So I came here to explain it, and found an existing article. I edited some with what little time I had, and came back today to take away the ranking and belt section as I felt it should not be there (it was there from the previous author).

As to the initial charge from Mereda, Joe Lansdale is quite well known in martial arts circles, by many well known martial artists, here in the states and abroad (England, Germany, Italy to name a few), Google hits notwithstanding. You may also Google Lansdale's Self Defense if more hits are desired. This was meant as an explanation of Shen Chuan (as in an encyclopedia) and not an advertisement.

Charge two from ColourBurst... As stated above, Joe Lansdale is notable in Martial Arts circles. As for the interpretation of Shen, I would ask you to type it the wiki search box to left and see if it does not also translate into spirit. Also, when forming the system the interpretation was posed to a Chinese Linguist (Professor actually) who had no problems with that translation.

In closing I hope that I followed wiki rules (I read everything I could in the short amount of time I had) and procedures, and I would ask the you reconsider deleting the page. If it crosses some wiki advertising boundry, I can understand. But the other arguments aren't holding water in my opinion. Sensei6 12 September 2006

• Delete Unsourced. ~ trialsanderrors 03:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.