Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shane Keister

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The result was Keep (non-admin close) RMHED (talk) 19:49, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shane Keister[edit]

In a search for this artist's name, I've found nothing but directory listings. He may be prolific, but for the most part he seems to fail WP:V. We know that he played on a bazillion albums, but that's all we know. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 14:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and clean up. According to this article here, Shane Keister has been nominated for a Grammy, won three Dove Awards, won two Cleo awards, and won an Emmy. He has been a part of many Grammy nominated albums including Steven Curtis Chapman's Signs of Life and Five For Fighting's American Town. He has been a part of Grammy winning albums like Steven Curtis Chapman's Speechless and he co-worte songs for and played on the Grammy winning album Age to Age by Amy Grant. The article needs a lot of work, but he is certainly notable.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Antmusic (talk • contribs) 18:35, 17 August 2008

Keep - firstly, the article is in horrible shape. The huge block of name-dropping certinaly needs to go. However, a search of Google News would seem in to indicate that there might be some notability and tagging for references would be appropriate -- Whpq (talk) 16:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 13:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed that long list of musicians and replaced it with a cited note that he has worked with such people as Billy Joel and Elvis Presley. I also added a reference to one of his GMA Dove Awards. As Whpq noted, other references are available as well. It does appear that he has had enough third-party coverage to justify a keep. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 02:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd expect you would have to look long and hard for "written evidence" of some of the information included here and simply wouldn't find any. I went to high school with Shane, sang in the choir he accompanied under Phil Varney and played in one of the "competing" bands in the area, but it may be that it isn't much help unless someone writes it all down somewhere and publishes it. Some of the additions I made come from first-hand knowledge and appear to have been removed by individuals who probably were trying to "make the article fit standards", even though they may not know Shane at all or didn't know him during the period I did. Of course, this leads back to the issue of whether or not the information can be verified. I can do that, but I suspect it's not the kind of citation that might be necessary. I think it's clear that Shane deserves a place in musical history for the many things he has accomplished and I'd hate to see the article removed in light of all this. In sum: Clean up: yes; remove: no. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.108.15.59 (talk) 02:09, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.