Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shadia Bseiso

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The result was no consensus. Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:26, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shadia Bseiso[edit]

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No notable wrestler. The article doesn't talk about her wrestling career, just a little bit of background. Too soon for her article. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:26, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:28, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:28, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Jordan-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:29, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Although there are 5 different independent sources discussing it, it all revolves around the same event. Not enough to meet WP:GNG. - Galatz ^Talk 17:18, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: @Galatz: @HHH Pedrigree: Please read WP:NTEMP "Notability is not temporary; once a topic has been the subject of "significant coverage" in accordance with the general notability guideline, it does not need to have ongoing coverage." If something that has received coverage from CNN, Reuters, Al Jazeera, The Telegraph, LA times is not significant, then I don't know what is! Makeandtoss (talk) 09:46, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Makeandtoss: I suggest you scroll down just a tiny bit. Go down just slightly from what you quoted and read WP:SUSTAINED and you will understand better. - Galatz ^Talk 10:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Galatz: "If reliable sources cover a person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having a biographical article on that individual." She is on her way to become a WWE wrestler, how is this a one-time event? Makeandtoss (talk) 12:45, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Being a WWE wrestler does not make her notable, in addition being on her way to is WP:OR. If she would be injured tomorrow and never wrestle again what would make her notable other than this one thing? - Galatz ^Talk 13:30, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Galatz: "she began her first radio show at 18, and has gone on to become a household name in the Middle East, presenting TV shows including Dubai’s spin-off of The Voice, and hosting live sports and brand events for Nike and Pepsi." Makeandtoss (talk) 09:02, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak delete~~ - A few sources have announced that she signed with WWE but I don't think that's enough to pass WP:SIGCOV. Feels WP:TOOSOON.LM2000 (talk) 09:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@LM2000: Other than signing with WWE, she is a well-known TV presenter and figure. WP:SIGCOV lists 5 criteria, which Bseiso fullfils: 1-significant coverage 2-from reliable sources 3-from secondary sources 4-independent sources 5-does not violate what Wikipedia is not. WP:TOOSOON is an essay and not a Wikipedia guideline. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:15, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Meh, I'll switch to Keep. I'm not satisfied with the english sources but if the Telegraph is correct about her work in the Middle East then there should be foreign language sources which cover her in greater detail. We often overlook those sources even though they still count.LM2000 (talk) 22:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@LM2000: The subject's native langue is what we often overlook when it comes to sources just because this is the English Wikipedia. I even do it. Just because a subject has more sources in their native language doesn't we should write the subject off as non-notable because it is not English. Being as she is from Jordan, I would presume her native language is Arabic. So you will have to look for sources in Arabic. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 18:36, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are several sources on her spanish page too [1] - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 00:41, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:09, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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