Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Serene Branson (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:52, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Serene Branson[edit]

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Previous afd resulten in a redirect. This destination no longer mentions Serene Branson. There no longer is any info left on the subject. CapnZapp (talk) 20:40, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep This is AfD, not RfD. I'd say "wrong venue", but the nom has followed neither WP:BEFORE nor WP:SOFIXIT. Unscintillating (talk) 21:38, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:24, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:25, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:25, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first time I have tried to have an article deleted, so I might have done it wrong. In plain English, I'm trying to say: "This article should be removed since there is no information about its subject on Wikipedia anylonger". While simple to say in English, I find it very difficult to express in Wiki-bureaucrat-speak and/or find the "right" venue. And that even though I am certainly not new to Wikipedia. Shut this down if it isn't "the right venue", but then please point me in the right direction: this was my honest and best shot at doing it by the book! Best Regards, CapnZapp (talk) 16:50, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I have "read and understood" all relevant policies (to the best of my ability) at WP:BEFORE, and I have read through each check at section B. Regarding sections C and D, I have looked through the history of the redirect target (the TV station) and understood that she was only mentioned on that page; then purged from the page as non-notable (she's had a single event where she got a migraine attack live). There is no info on the destination page left to justify the redirect, and there is no hope to expand the article (if for no other reason the previous AfD shunted her info over to the page that now have removed it).

And so I ask of you, Northamerica1000, to consider avoiding jumping to conclusions about the "nom" in the future. Instead, please advice me on how to proceed. Thank you CapnZapp (talk) 17:02, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't beat the nom up on WP:BEFORE. Why, did you find any good refs to the subject that the nom should've caught, Unscintillating? I didn't: just a (small) heap of "Soandso told KCBS reporter Serene Branson that his manhood was carried off by dingos" links. There's only a single newspaper hit, which is more of the same. CapnZapp, what you want is WP:RFD. That's the right place to do it. Nha Trang 20:04, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

N.b. Regarding the above comments, I have not commented herein, I only provided deletion sorting. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:21, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My very sincere apologies: for some reason, I attributed that to you when I should've attributed it to Unscintillating. Nha Trang 21:37, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First off, apologies. I too mixed up the two of you.

Secondly, I read through RfD and do not believe that is the appropriate venue. Even though the page currently is a redirect. Nothing on that page applies to Serene Branson: I can't find a good WP:RFD#DELETE point, and WP:RFD#HARMFUL would seem to apply. Remember I'm talking about a page that started out as a biographical article, that at some point was made into a redirect as a result of a previous AfD. I want (wanted) to continue that discussion, and close the article entirely, thinking "Serene Branson" has "left" Wikipedia, now that the redirect has stopped making sense. This place is the only place that makes sense to me. But so far we have only discussed formalities and minutiae, which isn't why I decided to spend my time trying to help out. I've spent far too much time on what should have been a one-click delete. Therefore, I am outta here: if anybody wants to bring the issue to a administratively acceptable close, feel exceedingly free to do so yourself.

Regards, CapnZapp (talk) 21:06, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:08, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:50, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.