Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scuderia Ferrari's 90th Anniversary

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Scuderia Ferrari#F1 team sponsorship. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:09, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Scuderia Ferrari's 90th Anniversary[edit]

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A stub-length article about a single anniversary event that seems to have received little press beyond the auto aficionado scene. Sourcing is mostly to Ferrari's PR and articles that more or less parrot said PR, and it's just a list of events and featured cars. This should, at best, be a section in Scuderia Ferrari (I imagine the length would be WP:UNDUE given the not-that-notable nature of the event).

Pinging users involved in the redirect edit war: @Teratix, SSSB, JalenFolf, 82.52.57.90, Boneymau, and 87.18.132.135: Ytoyoda (talk) 21:03, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Jalen Folf (talk) 21:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Jalen Folf (talk) 21:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Notabillity is not determined by how people atteneded a given event.
    SSSB (talk) 11:57, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per nom and Jaden Folf, the sourcing is not sufficient to justify any more than a sentence or two in the parent article. – Teratix ₵ 02:17, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The centenary will be by far much more notable; this is just a logo and certain ceremonies that took place during big races, along with automobile releases which are better noted in their appropriate articles. Like all the film studio anniversary releases, this is only notable to Ferrari fans, by far. Nate • (chatter) 03:23, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - per nom, this anniversary simply hasn't recieved sufficent coverage and the anniversary is therefore not notable and the article shoud therefore be deleted. I fail to see how redirecting to any page is useful, espically not Scuderia Ferrari#F1 team sponsorship which has one sentence on the subject burried deep in the text and is only present because the team were banned from using Mission Winnow. It could just as easy be redirected to Ferrari SF90#Background or Ferrari SF90 Stradale#Top which give as much detail on the subject, next to none. I think the best course of action would be to simply delete this page and in the unlikly event that someone finds enough secondry sources to write a section on the anniversary in Scuderia Ferrari we can recreate this page as a redirect there. Until then there is no benefit to having this redirect anywhere.
    SSSB (talk) 11:57, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    The redirect may not be very useful, but it's cheap. Doesn't really matter either way. – Teratix ₵ 12:13, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    True, but based on the fact that multiple locations give the same level of detail to different parts of the subject it should be redirected to Scuderia Ferrari not any specific part of the article.
    SSSB (talk) 12:22, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hold the article must be expanded and completed. But you realize that it bears the name of two cars one of Formula one and one road as well as an imposing ceremony near cathedral of Milan.
At this event there were drivers from the present and past from Ferrari as well as numerous present audiences. But an event to become an article must be the third world war or a biblical hurricane!
This is an event that has involved millions of spectators and many hundreds present !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.115.67 (talk) 21:25, 22 December 2019 (UTC) — 87.13.115.67 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • I am suspicious that this comment is from the same person under a different IP address. As stated above, notability is not determined by attendance. See WP:GNG. Jalen Folf (talk) 22:06, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bear in mind that no-one is claiming the event cannot be covered at all, merely that there is not enough sourcing for a standalone article. It can still be covered in related, broader articles. – Teratix ₵ 23:20, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@JalenFolf: and @Teratix:, given the IP addresses stated "Hold", I bring up a previous AfD for Turbo Launcher in which the same terminology was used for an article created by Peter39c. I think a CheckUser is warranted. – The Grid (talk) 18:13, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment An IP user likely associated with this article’s creator, Peter39c has created a copy-paste duplicate at Draft:Scuderia Ferrari's 90th Anniversary. I’m not sure what the purpose is, but it’s unnecessary, confusing and disruptive to have multiple versions of the same article. Please let the AfD process complete before creating a draft of an article that already exists. 16:13, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • But that it is a crime to put an article in draft, it is not pornographic, there are simply many reliable sources that talk about this sport event. The article can be expanded. There are thousands of articles from smaller car manufacturers, but nobody deletes them.
We need to enrich the encyclopedia not to impoverish it.
Why can't there be a main article and a secondary one in which the events are further detailed, does it cost money to put another article? I do not know.
I never proposed to delete an article from others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.233.122.34 (talk) 17:11, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No notability has been established for a separate article to exist. Also, your competence is required as this encyclopedia does have policies for editwarring and especially sock puppetry with logging out of your account and using an IP address. I want to assume good faith but I'm surprised this is still an issue. – The Grid (talk) 18:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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