Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Science Undergraduate Society of McGill University

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The result was delete. Fails WP:GNG. We need reliable sources to demonstrate encyclopedic notability. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 09:28, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Science Undergraduate Society of McGill University[edit]

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Student society at a single university, which I can't see as being notable. Was prodded but the prod was removed without a reason by an IP. Number 5 7 13:12, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Faculty student societies at other Canadian universities (such as Queen's Engineering Society, The Alma Mater Society of the University of British Columbia Vancouver, Engineering Undergraduate Society of the University of British Columbia, The Arts & Science Undergraduate Society of Queen's University (ASUS)) have their own articles. So does the Students' Society of McGill University. Not sure why this student society in particular doesn't merit its own page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.112.43 (talk) 04:06, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- You may want to read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Those other articles should probably be deleted too. Number 5 7 13:15, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - There are over 5000 student represented by this society at a major Canadian university in a major Canadian city. It frequently interacts with these communities in a way that is notable to many students and residents in the city. There are a multitude of wikipedia articles for towns and counties in the US that have a tenth of that population and those are certainly less notable. There are over 150 articles about cities in Florida alone that have less population than this society has constituents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.157.12.192 (talk) 04:52, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- You're comparing apples and oranges. Take a look at WP:CLUB and WP:ORG to get a better sense of specific notability requirements.Glendoremus (talk) 05:46, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge into McGill University - fails to meet basic notability guidelines. Very few references are independent of the organization (or the university) and those few are local sources that mention the club in passing.Glendoremus (talk) 05:46, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete another non-notable student society. Nothing in Google News, nothing substantial on Google Books. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:05, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A student society can be notable enough for a Wikipedia article if it can be reliably sourced well enough to clear WP:ORGDEPTH; it does not get an automatic inclusion freebie just on the number of students that it happens to represent. And student societies are not populated places, either, so the fact that a town in Florida might have a smaller population than this organization's number of members is irrelevant to anything. Also, the creator ("Susmcgill") has an obvious conflict of interest. Bearcat (talk) 13:12, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947 18:28, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Looking at the references there are three reliable sources (not McGill affiliated, or self-published), articles from the Prince Albert Herald, the Montreal Gazette, and the Canadian Jewish News. None of these articles mention the science undergraduate society by name. There is nothing here to support a claim of notability. GiovanniSidwell (talk) 12:59, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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