Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Von Kienegger

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:19, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sara Von Kienegger[edit]

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I've examined the sources cited and made my own searches but have not found in-depth coverage in multiple reliable sources. Neither WP:NARTIST or WP:BIO appear to be met. SmartSE (talk) 14:31, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. Quis separabit? 15:23, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. MassiveYR ♠ 15:37, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Austria-related deletion discussions. MassiveYR ♠ 15:37, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 15:45, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete mostly copy/pasted from her bio, or from sites that have copied her bio, like alchetron. So blatantly promotional it cannot be fixed without a complete rewrite. A clear case of WP:NOTADVERTISING. I don't think she meets our notability criteria either, because I don't see any significant critical attention. Mduvekot (talk) 16:44, 30 August 2017 (UTC) Update: The Eduscho award is an award she won at age 10. Not a notable award. (Eduscho was a coffee brand in Germany). Mduvekot (talk) 16:45, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I removed all the material that was added recently considered possible paid editing, back to the time the article was considered adequate for the time being.StephenPeters999 (talk) 05:22, 1 September 2017 (UTC)Stephen Peters999[reply]
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~~Keep~~There is obviously no longer anything paid on this article and the online magazines used as reference are very strict about their sources and the quality of their work. These notices should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephenpeters999 (talk • contribs) 18:09, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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~~Keep~~ I have examined the sources and Whitewall Magazine is one of the most prestigious online magazines when it comes to art, and the Huffington Post is not inconsequential either. She also hosted an event at the world's number one most important art festival, Art Basel, with a performer and a gallery that are both on Wikipedia. Further research revealed that The Huffington Post is an entire Category on Wikipedia, with 7 articles. Stephenpeters999 (talk) 19:17, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment Can all the new editors involved in this discussion please read these instructions on how to contribute to an AfD discussion? Thanks, Mduvekot (talk) 21:02, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment About the relevance of Whitewall, "one of the most prestigious online magazines when it comes to art", it been used as a reference Wikipedia three times. Much more established publications like Artforum of Frieze have been used hundreds of times. Whitewall calls itself a luxury lifestyle magazine; its independence and reliability should be weighed accordingly. Mduvekot (talk) 21:30, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I see no evidence that she meets our notability guideline for artists. Her works are not part of museum collections or notable exhibitions, and I see no coverage of her in books written by art historians. The coverage of her is mostly in lifestyle/fashion/celebrity publications, which I do not consider adequate for an artist biography since such publications are little more than vehicles for promotion. In most of the sources, she is mentioned briefly and a few do not mention her at all. As for Whitewall magazine, it self-describes as a "art and luxury lifestyle magazine", and the source is a puff piece interview, which is not evidence of notability since it is not independent. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:55, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per much the same reasoning as Cullen - does not meet WP:NARTIST nor WP:GNG. I have not been able to find any coverage in German, either, which would have been expected from an Austrian artist. --bonadea contributions talk 07:43, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~How is the article on Whitewall magazine article not independent? They are a well known art publication that has nothing to do with Sara Von Kienegger?I am new to Wikipedia but I have already seen dozens of articles about seriously less significant persons than this - I agree there is some bias going on hereStephenpeters999 (talk) 00:19, 4 September 2017 (UTC)StephenPeters999[reply]
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@Stephenpeters999: each user can only make one comment so I have struck through three of your other !votes to keep the article. SmartSE (talk) 07:26, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I checked her on GOOGLE and I found she is notable enough for Wikipedia also i added her IMDB profail to article Mr.ref (talk) 15:23, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is enough coverage in "in depth sources" to keep an article, and where is the evidence of paid contribution? I have seen many less credible. This is looking more and more like another example of Wikipedia sexist bias. I seriously doubt few readers accomplished anything like this or know anyone else who has accomplished this much in their 20's. Von Kienegger left Austria at an early age and is actually based in London now TiffanyTinnell (talk) 20:10, 2 September 2017 — TiffanyTinnell (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Generally speaking, making aspersions and insulting fellow editors is frowned upon, as is sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry. GAB^gab 20:22, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Editor now blocked for socking in this discussion. Struck as a result. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 16:14, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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