Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Varone

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Cirt (talk) 14:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sara Varone[edit]

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Nom'd due to:

The lack of usable sources in this Google News search
The creating editor's lack of credibility (his original version claimed she was his wife)
Her not having an article on it.wikipedia.org—it's been deleted at least 13 times
Its orphan status
Its complete lack of content stating why she's notable
Its complete lack of references
The lack of any coverage of her (web pages, blog posts or otherwise) that say anything besides "She's a hot Italian woman"—fine, but WP doesn't need an article on every hot Italian (male or female).

"Lots of Ghits" is not a reason to keep an article, so let's not go there, okay? Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 08:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No indication of notability. No reliable sources. Shadowjams (talk) 13:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't understand why she doesn't have an article on the Italian Wikipedia, because there appear to be plenty of sources about her in Google News, albeit almost all of them in Italian: [1]. Surely some of our Italian-speaking editors (of which we have thousands here at the English Wikipedia) should be able to put together a legitimate article based on these references. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:39, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I agree with Metropolitan90. I'm sure some of the sources from google news could at the very least assert notability. Could maybe even expand the article with them. If, that is, there is an Italian-speaking editor willing to help (there probably is), Lord Spongefrog, (Talk to me, or I'll eat your liver!) 17:39, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:BEFORE. There are lots of news Ghits in Italian, and there is certainly a lot of junky, unreliable Ghits. For the tens of thousands of possible sources (Ghits), at least some must be reliable; with smoke there must be fire. Bearian (talk) 17:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What part of WP:BEFORE didn't I do?

✓ Read & understand DEL

✓ Read the article & review its history

✓ Tag the article if needed

✓ See if it can be merged or redirected

✓ Check Special:Whatlinkshere/Sara Varone

✓ Check interlanguage links

✓ Read the talk page

✓ Read NOTE, BIO, CREATIVE, ENTERTAINER etc.

✓ Confirm no sourcing exists

✓ Confirm it can't be fixed through normal editing

I also note that BEFORE is not a reason to keep an article, but rather, a comment about the nominator/nomination. If you have an issue with me or my editing, please take it elsewhere; this isn't the place for it. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 04:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions.
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. —Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 04:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Of the editors !voting keep, none have added reliable sources to the article, nor have they given any valid rationales, nor have they stated which notability criteria she meets. Simply adding a link to IMDB or stating she's notable doesn't help.
I don't have an issue with this article existing, but I do think it shouldn't exist unless it contains references verifying that she's notable and why. In this case, I think that we should take our cue from the Italians; if they don't have a it:Sara Varone article, I don't see why we should. Given the number of times they've deleted attempts to create one and the utter lack of English-language sources, I'm just not seeing that there's a basis for an article. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 04:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fences&Windows 00:21, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- Fences&Windows 00:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Gets news coverage so meets requirements for having an article. Eventually someone may expand the stub article. Dream Focus 06:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.