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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is that GNG overrides CRYSTALBALL. This is an extremely weak case of CRYSTALBALL anyway. Further CRYSTALBALL nominations for any article should consider Google News results. (non-admin closure) J947 00:15, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Samsung Galaxy S8[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a crystal ball! This page should be deleted, and, if possible, SALTed until the device is made official in a couple of weeks. Note: this has been done to the S7 and the S6 before they were announced.

Pinging David.moreno72, who requested QD, and Adam9007, who declined it, to this discussion. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 00:00, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:00, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and Salt until the proper announcement comes out on March 29th, which is when Samsung has advised it will happen. All the sources I'm seeing are speculative, "it might have", "it may come with", etc based on an apparently "leaked" video. WP:TOOSOONdefinitely I have been corrected... WP:CBALL is more appropriate. - Pmedema (talk) 02:26, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete TOOSOON, but on the border of being okay. If there were some sources on that article, I'd probably remove my comment. It's not my area of expertise, so I don't have strong feelings one way or another. South Nashua (talk) 03:39, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. OMG, about 816,000 results in Gnews, many with Samsung Galaxy S8 in the headline. It's notable about 1000 times over. Expand with some background info about how widely the device is anticipated. This is not WP:CBALL because it will definitely be released unless North Korea invades South Korea, nationalizes Samsung, and renames this phone as the Democratic People's Phone Company Kim Jong-un 8 within the next two weeks. The phone will be released before this AFD is closed, so I don't understand the AFD proposal. Jack N. Stock (talk) 05:41, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • The text from WP:CBALL: "It is appropriate to report discussion and arguments about the prospects for success of future proposals and projects or whether some development will occur, if discussion is properly referenced. It is not appropriate for editors to insert their own opinions or analyses. Predictions, speculation, forecasts and theories stated by reliable, expert sources or recognized entities in a field may be included..." WP:TOOSOON is an essay about not-yet-notable actors and unreleased movies. WP:CBALL is the relevant policy, which states that it is appropriate to include the anticipation and expectations of appropriate sources, as long as we are not ourselves speculating about the device. Neither the essay nor the policy provide a case for deletion. Jack N. Stock (talk) 06:46, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete per WP:TOOSOON . I tagged this with a CSD as it was some teenagers 'vandalism', which has subsequently been deleted. It has now been improved, but still doesn't make for a 'good' article. Until it has officially been released with full specs and reviews, and the stub can be expanded upon, I would wait until then. David.moreno72 10:53, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Subject of article has itself been the subject of multiple, reliable, in-depth sources. If things do change about this subject, our article can change with it. One month before the release date is not too soon; given that there is already reliable, in-depth coverage of the topic. --Jayron32 21:16, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep much like other articles, it has significant coverage in media outlets and has an official release date. Not a crystal ball unless it also contains speculative and unconfirmed facts. See Apple electric car project specifically its many deletion requests for more. EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 16:16, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • To expand with a few wikilinks, the subject is WP:NOTABLE because it is covered in many WP:INDEPENDENT sources. The article itself is not WP:CRYSTAL because it contains no speculation, just contains confirmed information reported by reliable sources about an upcoming device. Samsung has already announced its existence officially so it's no longer entirely speculatory. EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 18:11, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Lot of famous medias has told about this phone, it's enough to keep it. Bretwa (talk) 18:07, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • The search for "Samsung Galaxy S8" surpassed one million results on Gnews today. "About 1,080,000 results." Jack N. Stock (talk) 00:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or merge - Keep, or merge to Samsung Galaxy S series (or Samsung Galaxy). This page does have important history that should be kept in tact for future development. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:04, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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