Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saleem Dabbour

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Even after discounting the spas, there is a weak consensus to keep this article. However, if the sources are translated and it's not felt that they represent significant coverage, then no prejudice against a quick (but not speedy) renomination. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Saleem Dabbour[edit]

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Promotional article for a writer/filmmaker of questionable notability. Google news search shows zero results. Standard search shows a lot of primary sources, along with trivial mentions and unreliable sources, but little significant coverage. Claim of being voted one of the "Top 5 Cultural Personalities" shows zero results outside this article. MikeWazowski (talk) 17:29, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon Mike, but searching Gooogle Archives show something more than simply "zero results". Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 08:00, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cautious delete - I can find no reliable sources which would suggest notability. However, as he is Palestinian, we should be careful to ensure there are no non-English sources that we may have missed. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 18:08, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I think the "Top 5 Cultural Personalities in Palestine, public poll Ma'an, 2009-2010" statement is based on the Ma'an News Agency source here that is included in the references. I've added his name in Arabic and a link to Arabic Wikipedia just in case it helps to more accurately assess non-English coverage. I see that an editor added many Arabic sources to the article and another editor deleted them here without providing a policy based reason. Sean.hoyland - talk 06:01, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:27, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep. He may not have English coverage, but he has plenty of Arabic coverage and he is indeed popular in the Middle East. I'm taking a look at the Arabic sources on سليم دبور and the ones that Sean said were reverted in the article itself right now. ~dee^(talk?) 16:46, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment All the External Links are actually references to various media where he is covered. The article needs a lot of work...but that's a copyedit issue and his notability isn't in dispute. I'll try to do some work on this... ~dee^(talk?) 16:48, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Strong KEEP: I don't see the Article which talks about Mr. Saleem as a promotin one, it actually tells little facts about his great work and all of it are FACTS, I'm a palestinian and I know this very well. He is always in TV and news. Yes there are not to many external links in English about him, and that is because he is A palestinian writer, google him in Arabic then you will find out too many external links or references, such as al jazerra net, Alquds news, Middle East, Ma'an and so on, I added some for your convenience.

This writer is a well known person, and very popular, Arabic google support my point of view, There for I'm against the idea of deleting the article which gives the none arabic reader a hint about such a man who revived the Palestinian Cinema and Theater, and used this Art to raise awarness and to envoice his people. trust me guys he is a very popular writer and a general manager of a well known civil society organization: www.awcsw.org view this please. Best, Ahmad Basha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmad Basha (talk • contribs) 17:13, 28 March 2012 (UTC) — Ahmad Basha (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Strong Keep: Mr. Dabbour has too many reliable Arabic sources, for he is a well known and influential writer in M.E. I hope the issue of deletion has nothing to do with him being a Palestinian!

PS: I would like to draw your attention that the name of this writer appears almost daily in the national Newspapers and has numerous television and radio interviews. It is not his fault that the Western press is not interested in Arabic literature or Drama, although he was interviewed by many Dutch Newspapers such as NRC,RDB, and interviewed by NBC, Spanish TVs, and Dutch TVs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.60.50.23 (talk) 22:47, 29 March 2012 (UTC) — 46.60.50.23 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Nor his fault that google itself is not as comprehensive for non-English topics as we'd like to pretend. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 08:00, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I am rewriting the article in my sandbox and should be finished either today or tomorrow. ~dee^(talk?) 10:11, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your efforts dee. click here please if you are interested to add his picture [1]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmad Basha (talk • contribs)
Strong Keep It is ridiculous to delete this Article for several reasons, Firstly; Mr. Dabbour is a well-known influential and eminent writer in the Middle East. Secondly; This article requires a better editing and has nothing to do with his notability and so on. Thirdly, Wikipedia is strongly advised to keep this article and remove it from the deletion list. Thanks, A Palestinian Director. RA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.205.58.39 (talk) 11:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Mr. RA, Mr. Dee is working on eiditing. Ahmad Basha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmad Basha (talk • contribs) 16:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and continue work on translation of sources. His receiving significant coverage in multiple non-English sources is a "issue", but an addressable one that does not call for deletion. Sourcable notability outside the The West is notability none the less. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:59, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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