Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sadine, Podgorica

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Subdivisions of Podgorica. I read a narrow consensus to redirect. This is backed-up by the argument that the article has no more information than the target. Indeed, the target has slightly more information in that it specifies this to be an urban community. I will copy across the two non-spam refs. Just Chilling (talk) 00:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sadine, Podgorica[edit]

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No evidence of notability. This is one of a set expanded from a list of areas on a real estate website. Imaginatorium (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Montenegro-related deletion discussions. Imaginatorium (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Lack of substantive sources asserting notability. Reywas92^Talk 19:39, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It is the subject of a "detailed urban plan" here. This is "Six papers were shortlisted for solving the area of Sadina in Podgorica" Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:40, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify: I do not think there is any dispute that the placename exists; but it has to be "notable", and being the subject of urban planning does not in itself amount to notability. The name could be included in a "list of suburbs" on the Podgorica page, if that was thought genuinely helpful. Imaginatorium (talk) 05:04, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, as there is nothing there at the moment how about a Redirect from Sadine to List of Podgorica neighbourhoods and suburbs? Coolabahapple (talk) 14:16, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Subdivisions of Podgorica. I think this is the best redirect target, as Podgorica does not have a list of suburbs and List of Podgorica neighbourhoods and suburbs has a paragraph of descriptive info on each entry. We do not have any sources giving descriptive info, so it makes sense to redirecto the subdivisions page, where Sadine is already listed. --Cerebellum (talk) 16:55, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

fair enough. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:23, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Chilling (talk) 19:22, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Chilling (talk) 22:55, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Subdivisions of Podgorica as per Cerebellum. As a populated place, it meets WP:GEOLAND, but the article in its present form is now worth having. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments (by proposer): I see the argument for redirecting. Should/Could I also redirect all the other names copied from the estate agent's list? Then can anyone explain the point of having two separate articles: (1) List of Podgorica neighbourhoods and suburbs at least has content, though in a normal encyclopedia such content would be in an article Podgorica (here there is an intervening article Podgorica Capital City which is a sort of top-level "list of placenames"; and (2) Subdivisions of Podgorica, which is just a content-free list of possible subdivisions, many redlinked, uncited, or just dead ends. Imaginatorium (talk) 14:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Article is notable enough to stand in its own; no redirection to an unsourced main article is needed by making a WP as a directory for populated places which readers are uniquely querying. Shevonsilva (talk) 04:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The entire body text of the "article" is: "Sadine is a suburb of Podgorica, Montenegro." Can you explain what information this gives the reader other than including "Sadine" in a list of suburbs of Podgorica? (And what is a "unique query" in this context?) Imaginatorium (talk) 06:20, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.