Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sacramento Islamic Mosque

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The result was delete. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 16:09, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sacramento Islamic Mosque[edit]

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AfD notice placed by Baymiwuk (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) who did not complete the AfD nomination process. I am neutral. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Sacramento Islamic Mosque is also known as Muslim Mosque Association. I have added a {{Find sources AFD}} for the second name above. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not sources, not referenced, and especially not notable - we don't have an article for every church so why every mosque?Baymiwuk (talk) 19:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, wumbolo ^^^ 11:52, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

leaning delete The only claim to notability doesn't make sense: is this one or nine mosques? Possibly this would be salvagable if the inconsistency were corrected but current state suggests a not-notable organization. Mangoe (talk) 18:44, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There are several mosques .It is not clear how this particular mosque is notable.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete article claims that "The Muslim Mosque Association is the oldest mosque in the United States west of the Mississippi River, at 411 V St. in Downtown Sacramento, California." cited to an article in the Sacramento Press and the claim is that it was built in 1946. "oldest" claims can be difficult to prove/disprove, but this one is clearly wrong. The oldest surviving mosque building in the United States is the Mother Mosque of America in Cedar Rapids, built in 1934; Cedar Rapids is west of the Mississippi River. Older American mosques (congregations) exist. The Sacramento Press appears to have been relying on facts supplies by the congregation. It is a local source, and the problem is that it is is the best source in the article. I assume that whoever wrote "oldest" in the article took the word of the newspaper as reliable, but having a page that is clearly wrong on what appears to be this mosque's sole claim to notability is problematic. Mosques, like churches, need to pass WP:GNG. they tend to do so by being very big, very old, architecturally notable, or very significant within a particular religious community or in the career of a notable cleric. I see no indication that this mosque is notable, and no WP:SIGCOV.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:38, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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