Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SGCSim (Computer Program)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was merge as per RayGates; this is an editorial decision due to lack of consensus. Feel free to call me a WP:DICK on WP:DRV. Johnleemk | Talk 15:30, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

SGCSim (Computer Program), Stargate command simulator'

(Original nomination and votes for SGCSim (Computer Program) only.) —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-02-03 15:34Z

Non-notable program that simulates what is sometimes seen on computer screens in the background of SG1 scenes. Ugh. And it's not even being worked on anymore. Cyde Weys 06:01, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Royboycrashfan 06:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• What, doesn't the act of buying a domain automagically make someone or something notable? No? You're sure? OK, Delete. Adrian Lamo · (talk) · (mail) · 06:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Wow, Adrian Lamo is voting on my AfD nomination! I feel special. --Cyde Weys 07:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

... but would you be as jazzed if I'd voted to keep? :) Adrian Lamo · (talk) · (mail) · 08:35, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

• I vote Keep. It is a fairly recent artical, and until just now, most of the people who use SGCSim were unaware of the page here. I feel we should give the artical a chance to be made better. tpg1989 10:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

  Tpg1989 (talk · contribs)'s only contributions are to the SGCSim articles, talk pages, and this AFD. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-02-07 07:41Z

• Delete, non-notable software. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-02-03 12:35Z
• Delete per Quarl. Kusma (討論) 14:48, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

See also: SGCSim (Forum) (AfD discussion). —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-02-03 12:38Z

I am bundling the AFD for Stargate command simulator' at this point. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-02-03 15:32Z

(nomination for Stargate command simulator') "Stargate command simulator" gets one non-wiki Google hit; delete non-notable. Melchoir 09:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

(votes re Stargate command simulator')

• Keep, but remove trailing apostrophe. Google for 'SGCSim Project' returns 1632 hits.RayGates 03:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge with SGCSim (Computer Program) as per Dr. Cash below. I was not previously aware of the other article.RayGates 13:33, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, remove apostrophe. --AlexWCovington (talk) 05:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. That many Google hits isn't really impressive, and there isn't anything notable about this. —Cleared as filed. 05:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as nn software product, and per Google hits. Kusma (討論) 05:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• Merge Article should be merged with SGCSim (Computer Program). Dr. Cash 05:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• Merge - I agree. Article should be merged with SGCSim (Computer Program). P.H. - Kyoukan, UASC 02:20, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - Really, this just isn't notable. I'm sorry. I even sort of like SG1 and computer simulations. Cyde Weys 06:01, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Begin bundled AFD. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-02-03 15:33Z

• Delete both. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-02-03 15:33Z
• Delete, it has an ok number of Google hits, but popularity doesn't mean notability. I mean, what SG-related thing *isn't* going to be a bit popular online? And I say that as a reasonably persistent watcher of SG-[*] myself. Adrian Lamo · (talk) · (mail) · 19:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• Given that there seems to be no support to keep this as an independent article, I suggest Merge into Triva section of Stargate SG-1 RayGates 22:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• In the nn artical, it says something about having over 5,000 users. I have evidence of numbers over the last 12 months. SGCSim.com has 1,003 downloads. Original release on SG1files.com has 4,304 downloads, and the latest release on SG1files.com has 11,501 downloads. Thats a total of 16,808 downloads. And that is only over the last 12 months maximum. Every time the SGCSim.com website gets erased (has happened from various hosts), the number count is reset there. Last time that happened was June 2005. The counts from SG1files.com are starting from April 2005. I would safely estimate at least twice of what we have evidence for. And this doesn't include versions before v5.0.2, as there were no recorded counts for them. (v1, v2, v3, and v4.1). We should at least Merge the two articals. tpg1989 23:17, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
  • 5000 downloads doesn't equate to 5000 users, especially if there have been so many releases. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-02-04 03:40Z
    • The number I gave you was for the current version, 5.0.2, and its not even for all the downloads of that version. On SG1files.com, it was released there as 5.0.2, and then re-released with a tiny change. Users were advised that if they had already downloaded it that there was no need to download the other one. It is 16,808 recorded downloads for version 5.0.2. Numbers were not recorded before 2005, and previous versions of the sim have been around from at least 2002. tpg1989 06:09, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep--Ted-m 17:02, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete both. I shudder to think how pathetic a person would have to be to make something like this. --Agamemnon2 13:18, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep. Agamemnon, I shudder to think of how it feels to not be a fan of anything. I can also say, with mild certaintity that there will be a Beta of the new version sometime soon. ~Avalon304 23:16, 06 Febuary 2006 (UTC)

    Avalon304 (talk · contribs)'s only contributions are to this AFD and Image:Sgcsim7nq.png. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-02-07 07:38Z

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.