Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ruchell Cinque Magee

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The result was no consensus‎. (non-admin closure) Os ari us 13:42, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ruchell Cinque Magee[edit]

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Interesting case, not finding much of any coverage of this person beyond activist websites. Almost lack of news sourcing about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have access to a reference library until the end of the week but google scholar shows mentions in 7 different journals and google books similarly shows numerous results. This article was meant as a stub to be built upon by others. The History Wizard of Cambridge (talk) 00:26, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. WP:BASIC is met. In-depth coverage here (~875 words) [1]. Prison Legal News should be reliable, though attribution may be necessary when opinion enters the mix. A good chunk of SIGCOV in an academic book [2] —siro χ o 04:57, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/30/black-panther-radicals-still-in-jail 69.162.231.48 (talk) 21:34, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. If kept then it needs to be rewritten. Its tone and use of terms such as "American regime prison camp" are a clear violation of WP:NPOV. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:18, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 00:30, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Talk about re-writing history to suit one's POV. He was never a slave, but a prisoner tried and convicted for participating in the Marin County Civic Center attacks. He pleaded guilty to the charges. America hasn't had "prison camps" since WWII. Magee was in prison, period. — Maile (talk) 01:45, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
America certainly does have prison camps. Minimum security institutions, also known as Federal Prison Camps (FPCs), have dormitory housing, a relatively low staff-to-inmate ratio, and limited or no perimeter fencing. There's even a category for them. [3] Central and Adams (talk) 03:39, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- Plenty of RS. Sure, the tone of the piece is biased, but AfD is not cleanup. Here are some high quality sources not currently used: [4], [5], [6]. Central and Adams (talk) 03:44, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re the sources you provided - very good. I'm not changing my "delete" above, but thanks for the sources. — Maile (talk) 04:09, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:28, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting for a final time. Right now we're looking at no consensus. Any thoughts on the sources Central and Adams posted?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 01:17, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.