Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Etiquette

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Per WP:TNT and on the understanding that a new (and better) article will be created at "Royal etiquette". Randykitty (talk) 11:28, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Etiquette[edit]

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Strange one, this. I can't actually see anything much about Royal Etiquette in this article that isn't already covered in the articles on other subjects. I'm sure the subject of royal etiquette is encyclopaedic as there are so many codes of conduct and rules involving interactions with royalty, but this article isn't really giving us what the title promises. At the end of the day, surely it's just a rather roundabout way of promoting Princess Katarina's etiquette lessons? Mabalu (talk) 16:35, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the part advertising Katarina's services per Wikipedia:Spam. DrKiernan (talk) 09:52, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Article needs a clean up but sources provided by books and newspaper searches show the topic is clearly notable enough to have an article. Dcfc1988 (talk) 23:20, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - But DOES the article currently up address the subject it purports to cover? IMO what we currently have needs to be blown up and started over again. Mabalu (talk) 23:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 00:27, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - as the nominator acknowledges, this is a notable subject. But the article bascically needs to be started again from scratch. I'd be okay with a WP:BLOWITUP deletion but I don't think this is an article the encyclopaedia should be without (though I'm not sure why the second word in the title is capitalised). There would need to be a commitment that this is actually going to be rewritten because a terrible article is better than nothing at all in this instance. St★lwart¹¹¹ 03:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Having had another look, I think we should delete this in favour of an entirely new article at Royal etiquette which actually covers the subject of "royal etiquette" (and not just European royal etiquette; Chinese imperial etiquette being incredibly complex, for example). Thoughts Mabalu, Carlossuarez46, Dcfc1988? St★lwart¹¹¹ 06:07, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - An article on royal etiquette does need writing but I don't feel confident enough to take it on as it's a bit outside my comfort zone, and every country with a royal/imperial family has their own incredibly detailed, complex rules. There's also a question of whether royal etiquette should pertain to royalty's interactions, or if this refers to how the non-royal should behave around royalty. Perhaps members from Wikipedia:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility would be interested to take it on? Mabalu (talk) 08:56, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It would be both and I would be happy to make a start. You'd obviously be free to help but I'm not looking to dump this on someone; it's an area where I have some interest and I feel confident I could put together at least a general framework. St★lwart¹¹¹ 09:43, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:52, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.