Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rotsachtige kust van Zuid-Java met de grotten van Karang Bolong

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:44, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rotsachtige kust van Zuid-Java met de grotten van Karang Bolong[edit]

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None of the sources mention this painting. Van der Does' work appears at auctions occasionally, with estimates ranging from €700 to €2000. This particular work was, and is again, in a private collection. It has no exhibition history, and has not been written about (except here). Vexations (talk) 11:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:22, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your consideration! :), you are correct that perhaps Van der Does is maybe not even close to such artist like Rembrandt, and his works do appeared at certain times (but not many, around only 8-12 pieces every year (publicly known auctions)). I would like to make a statement that I do not make this page as a "promotional" matter, rather as a knowledge panel and page for public to understand and learn and perhaps appreciate :). Perhaps in your surroundings, the artist is rather unknown or even unappreciated, but in Asia (Singapore, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia, ect.) and even in some major countries in Europe (Netherlands, Austria, Germany, ect.), the Artist is highly regarded as one of the masters together with Gerard Pieter Adolfs, Charles Sayers, and other European artists in the (former) East Indies. In therms of his importance in the art market, his works also made a record in the "Mooi Indie" movement genre, which was sold for more than $ 50.000 (In the Asian countries his works are highly in demand with an estimate starting over $ 3.000 and up). I do understand your worries (as you are a senior editor, an expert!) but I do not expect a deletion for this matter, because, again, this is a page that I hope people could appreciate more and more, and perhaps who knows! people could expand and insert further information and could put a smile when seeing it :). In my opinion a page of an artwork or artist should be expanded not being blocked, because it is a "Public place and everyone can contribute, no such person is perfect". I am hoping that you could understand ang give it a chance for it will be shared to the public as a very tiny part of our life's history. Thank you very much for your time and consideration! very much appreciate your thoughts... -- Hendricolucky (talk 11:38, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, it's not on nl.wikipedia --Devokewater@ 08:29, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- And? Not being on the Wikipedia of the appropriate language is not an indicator of non-notability. Wikipedia is a work in progress. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:13, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I cannot find sources in a search. the article sources are poor; one of them is an auction house. There are perhaps other AfD candidates in the gallery for Willem Jan Pieter van der Does.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 14:52, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Se also Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Maanlicht_over_de_Javaanse_rijstvelden ThatMontrealIP (talk) 18:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and greetings! Thank you very much for all of your time in guiding me through this matter... I am a very young editor, a junior of course! who really want to explore and share my research to the public (all of the information in the Wikipedia page all came from my research and conversation with other art authors), I know and realize that this page that I started is not perfect in any ways, but I would like to assure you that every information that I got is very reliable... perhaps only, I could not properly write on Wikipedia what's in my mind :) I also realize that there are one other page in being mentioned. Again it is not perfect, and it is normal for you as a senior editor could be worried (AfD matter), but what I'm really hoping is that perhaps it should be there for anyone to see, not being deleted (I would be much more happy if you could give me a chance and help me to improve it), it is not perfect, but trust me that these article that I already made changed a lot of stories, I saw it with my own eyes that because of this articles and the help of some other editors that helped me, lots of auction houses, collectors, institute, and even museums! have a much bigger interest in the genre and the history, it is a great gap and a great progress!. I am certainly not an expert in the Wikipedia world, but I tried my best in giving others ehat I knew and what I hoped for!, and until now it worked and it changed the views of the art world... Thank you very much for your time and understanding, hope you would give people a chance to express his/hers ideas and knowledge! All my best to you! -- Hendricolucky (talk) 11:00, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into the article on the artist is another possibility, as long as his notability can be verified by the sourcing. Netherzone (talk) 13:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, None of the sources mention this painting. is both accurate and damning. Search results are Wikipedia mirrors. I don't see enough proof of existence to even justify a redirect to the painter. power~enwiki (π, ν) 02:55, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.