Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ronge Fils pistol

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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 19:01, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ronge Fils pistol[edit]

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I tired to find more about this pistol (see talk page), but I wasn't able to turn up much. Basically we have just some photos plus a comment "What a strange resemblance to the FN 1900!!!" on a website as sources. This company was doing what the modern-day re-branding companies do: bought stuff from others and relabeled them. So it's going to be pretty hard to figure out what this is. There are some sources about the company itself, which probably should get a page, but this particular gun (in the photo) isn't covered anywhere I've looked. Someone not using his real name (talk) 18:46, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Firearms-related deletion discussions. Someone not using his real name (talk) 18:53, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. Someone not using his real name (talk) 18:53, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Despite its appearance, the Ronge Fils functions as a standard double-action-only revolver. It holds extra ammunition in the pistol grip which must be removed and then inserted into the revolver cylinders to fire. It was chambered to fire .32 S&W cartridges, not .32 ACP. At the very least, the information in the article should be corrected. However, this firearm does not meet Wikipedia general notability guideline as it has not "received significant coverage in reliable sources" (key word: "significant"). As such, I would not oppose deletion.--RAF910 (talk) 21:52, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The photos show "7.65" imprinted on it. I'm guessing there may have been more than one version with different chambering. On the other hand, I was unable to spot any sign in the photos that this is an automatic revolver (for the wider audience of this AfD: that means it has to rotate the cylinder using the energy of the cartridge rather than that coming from the trigger pull), which is why I tagged that word with ^{[citation needed]}. I think the user who create this article added that info based on his hunch rather than some clear evidence; he has a history of adding incorrect info like that. Someone not using his real name (talk) 07:26, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Since the .32 ACP (aka 7.65 Browning) is a semi-rimmed cartridge while .32 S&W is rimmed, I suppose you're right that round for this revolver would be the rimmed one. Someone not using his real name (talk) 08:32, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, fails WP:GNG and precedent. Ansh6 6 6 00:06, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, this gun might actually have something in common with the Landstad revolver (Landstad 1900) We don't know until some sources are found. Squinting at the photo here, the Ronge Fils doesn't seem to have any mechanism for getting the rounds from the handgrip magazine into the chamber, though. Someone not using his real name (talk) 16:06, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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