Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ronan Doyle

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The result was delete. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ronan Doyle[edit]

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Non-notable banana eater trying to break world record is going to appear on tv. Damiens.rf 15:53, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:BIO: "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject". Article cites five such references, thereby meeting the notability criteria. CaptainAmerica2 (talk) 17:36, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete under WP:BLP1E. All cites provided in article relate to the same (future?) event. Even if event were in the past, and subject was a confirmed world record holder, would still have BLP1E problems. Same goes for "film maker" claims, which covers the same event and also falls in the WP:TOOSOON and WP:BLP1E categories. The other apparent "notability" claims made are very very weak: "Penned books as a child"? (cite? relevance? uniqueness?) "Baron of Sealand"? (these can be bought on the web!) Guliolopez (talk) 22:25, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Those are not notability claims, but rather items of personal information sourced from the Freiherr Films website, simply added as additional facts about the subject. The appearance on Lo Show dei Record has already occurred but has yet to be televised. However, this is not the only event for which notability is claimed. The article in the Irish Daily Star references an upcoming appearance on The Late Late Show. Furthermore, the filmmaker claim covers three films, rather than just a single one revolving around the record attempt. CaptainAmerica2 (talk) 03:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Couple of quick points:

You may want to read the COI guidelines about declaring an association to the subject
If the assertions relating to writing and purchased Barony titles are not notability assertions, then fine. However that leaves us back with BLP1E - as the only notability claim relates to one event/rationale.
If we're asserting notability under WP:FILMMAKER, then there should be WP:SIGCOV cites on those films. Otherwise we're back to BLP1E.

Cheers Guliolopez (talk) 12:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. —Guliolopez (talk) 12:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. —Guliolopez (talk) 12:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete under BLP1E and per Guliolopez' rationale. Non-notable banana eater - LOL - Alison ^❤ 13:23, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:BLP1E. Snappy (talk) 17:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To quote WP:1E, "When an individual is significant for his or her role in a single event, it may be unclear whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both". The significant quantity of media coverage, as well as the appearances on television programmes in two countries, surely indicates that at least one of these is deserving of an article. Perhaps the event20:16itself should be the subject of the article: "Another issue arises when an individual plays a major role in a minor event. In this case, it is not generally appropriate to have an article on both the person and the event. Generally in this case, the name of the person should redirect to the article on the incident, especially if the individual is only notable for that incident and is all that that20:16person is associated with in source coverage." Perhaps a retitling to "Ronan Doyle World Record Campaign" or something? CaptainAmerica2 (talk) 19:16, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Hi. If we're talking about an article to cover the record attempt event, then it would be subject to WP:NEWSEVENT. And, per that guideline (and WP:NOTNEWS) I can't see how a single fleeting event (involving one person) meets the longevity criteria. (Being on TV in 2 countries is not a notability criteria for events). The most the "event" would likely warrant is possibly a short mention in the competitive eating article. (FYI - If you're going to continue to contribute to this AfD discussion or otherwise contribute to Wikipedia articles relating to subjects with which you have an association, I will repeat my suggestion that you look at the relevant guidelines about avoiding COI). Guliolopez (talk) 21:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Guliolopez. Keb25 (talk) 22:04, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.