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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus to do so is a narrow one. The deciding factor in this closure is that the article cites only one very brief news report about the execution; this does not rise to the level of "significant coverage in reliable secondary sources" as required by WP:BIO. I'm unsure whether the report by Amnesty, an advocacy group, can be considered reliable. I'm also discounting the "claim over lack of premeditation" argument, which does not address any relevant point of policy.  Sandstein  20:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Jean Hudson[edit]

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  • Delete. Executed murderer, notability limited to WP:ONEEVENT. WWGB (talk) 09:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. —WWGB (talk) 11:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since the execution was considered controversial, perhaps this could be merged into an article or list on executions in Texas? - Mgm|(talk) 11:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all executions are considered controversial so controversy≠notability. WP:ONEEVENT - the crime itself doesn't seem notable enough to warrant an article, so surely its perp doesn't either. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Notability undefined. --➨Candlewicke  :) Sign/Talk 21:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:BLP1E. If we take out the executed criminal bit, there's nothing left, so no real grounds for an article here. Bfigura (talk) 23:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. If this is deleted, we might want to rethink the practice of automatically redlinking every name every list of executed individuals. -LtNOWIS (talk) 03:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep claim over lack of premeditation makes the validity of his execution an issue which is may linger. Philip Cross (talk) 22:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. I cannot find any independent commentary on the "lack of premeditation" issue. It has only been raised on single-purpose, anti-capital punishment websites. I don't see any other parties claiming this matter was especially controversial. WWGB (talk) 05:38, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Notable for two events: a notorious killing and a controversial execution. The article should be fleshed out though. Mapjc (talk) 22:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as WP:BIO1E for a fairly ordinary murder. All recent executions are controversial and the main issue here was whether his original defense lawyers did a competent job, a routine appeal strategy. Nothing here distinguishes the crime or its perpetrator. • Gene93k (talk) 22:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. For the same reasons Mapjc gave. Nonpoint74 (talk) 03:06, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The murder itself plus the controversy I feel meet WP:N, and story has significant coverage. Here's Amenesty Interional's writeup for more info: 1 FlyingToaster 07:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L'Aquatique[talk] 19:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as not demonstrating biographic notability. The red-linking mentioned by LtNOWIS should indeed be discontinued. Despite the controversy surrounding executions in the U.S. not all those executed are notable enough for biograhic articles of their own. Eluchil404 (talk) 19:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. We don't need an article for every executed criminal. This person commited a crime and got punished for it. End of story. An article about him just glorifies his crime even farther. Tavix (talk) 19:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The crime was not particularly notable, nor was the execution. The fact that there was a lot of press coverage does NOT establish notability if all of the coverage was for a specific event which itself is not particularly notable. An airliner crash, terrorist act, battle of a war, etc. are all notable. A murder is not on itself notable, and nothing about this particular murder is notable. Therefore, if the murderer is notable only for the murder, and his execution for that murder, the murderer is not notable either and does not deserve an article. Theseeker4 (talk) 19:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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