Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Fletcher

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Hut 8.5 18:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Fletcher[edit]

NN vanity page mainly edited by the subject, a recent deletion request was moved by User:81.1.88.135, whom I suspect is Mr. Fletcher Gareth E Kegg (talk) 19:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Only films are NN, and there is no other assertion of notability. If he is on the rise, then he warrants an article when he has risen; not before. LonelyBeacon (talk) 23:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. LB is right. Malinaccier (talk) 00:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — Vanity page, evident lack of notability. --Old Moonraker (talk) 07:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator. --Lockley (talk) 16:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do you suggest this article be ammended so to comply? Cheers. Bobbyfletch85 (talk) 03:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I will open with two suggestions: the first is: if you are the Robert Fletcher named in the article, you need to be very careful about what information you add to this article, as it could violate WP:COI. I would check that out.

Most importantly, you need to include references from reputable, neutral, third party source to support what is being asserted. That is, if you were the subject of a newspaper article or a magazine article. Definitely read WP:V to get an idea. Keep in mind: most blogs will not be accepted under this policy. This part is perhaps the most critical, because the entire argument behind the deletion of this article is the notability of the subject. Notability is confirmed by verification. LonelyBeacon (talk) 05:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I couldn't find any outside sources asserting notability. TGreenburgPR (talk) 19:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment and Keep - I agree that this article lacks references but I am not sure it should be removed. Firstly, I'm aware that the Gordon Ramsay video, in particularly, is popular, (particularly in American fraternities). Whatever you may think of parody's, it is - amazingly - the only one of Gordon Ramsay on youtube which is somewhat notable in itself! Secondly, the article mentions the elderly woman in one of his films (grandma or nan?) as one of the oldest people to act in youtube which is notable but unreferenced on any other website. The one saving grace is that, I have heard of both The Handmedowns and Mr.Ben, both bands mentioned on the page, the latter particularly notable. The former referenced in the Bournemouth Wire where having myself performed in Southampton recognize, but alas, I cannot help with a reference for that as the Bournemouth Wire does not posess an archive!

Robert was placed on the Bournemouth alumni which is notable. I think the article is a little self-promoting given that the user has made most of the contributions however, I consider the Gordon Ramsay video notable and the individual seems promising. Of course, view of 'promising' is subjective. I recall similar conflicts of opinion regarding many other youtube performers, especially Terra Naomi whom had a page before she had a record deal. In my opinion, it's a bit of a grey area so far as youtube peformers are concerned and as such needs further consideration, particularly by bobbyfletch85. Carkypants (talk) 18:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't a "notable video", and if we are going to start creating articles for university alumni, well, I'd qualify for one. Neither of the myspace bands are notable either. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.