Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Dayton

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Tone 18:39, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Dayton[edit]

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Blatant promotional article. No references to attest for notability. First two references are actually links to an online shop selling his art. Nearlyevil665 (talk) 16:53, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Upon further inspection I've noticed that the creator of this article also uploaded the subject's picture, the description of which reads "I took this picture of Robert Dayton". There has been no COI or paid editing disclosure by the author of the article - it was directly pushed into the mainspace. So unless someone who states they had taken a picture of someone in what appears to be a bedroom as not having a COI, then we are dealing with a violation of WP:COI and possibly undisclosed paid editing. Nearlyevil665 (talk) 17:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete GNG fail. I removed several sources that did not mention the subject. A search found next to nothing. As an aside, I do not think this is paid editing; it looks like run of the mill self promotion.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I am the author of this page. This is the first page I've ever created, and is definitely not paid editing! I'm currently in the process of editing text for neutrality and also to add additional citations. This person is an important figure in the Canadian underground scene and deserves a wikipage. --PoussinChevre (talk) 17:24, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain your connection to the subject given that you have stated here that you took a photograph of him in what appears to be a private residence? Nearlyevil665 (talk) 17:26, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PoussinChevre: Wikipedia is entirely based on reliable sources written by others in above-ground reputable publications. We can have articles on people from the "underground scene", but they need to have been noticed extensively in the above-ground scene.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Although he appears to be prolific, I can't find any significant, independent coverage to demonstrate notability. Doesn't fulfil the criteria for WP:ANYBIO, WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:CREATIVE. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 17:47, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I know the subject because we're from the same town - I felt he was a worthwhile subject for my first wiki page. However, I see now that I published too early - hopefully my edits will pass muster!--PoussinChevre (talk) 18:15, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

::@PoussinChevre: Taking credit for a photograph made in what appears to be the subject's bedchambers suggests more than simply "being from the same town". While it is perfectly fine to write about subjects you are connected to, you are strongly encouraged to go through Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation and allowing third-party review instead of publishing new articles directly. More info is available on WP:COI. Nearlyevil665 (talk) 18:43, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Ah! This is very helpful - thank you. Am I still able to submit edits for reevaluation or should I just pack it in and head over to Articles for creation?--PoussinChevre (talk) 18:53, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My first instinct is to suggest to post all strong and meaningful references that you believe suggest notability of the subject straight here as a comment, but I will let more experienced users suggest the best course of action. Nearlyevil665 (talk) 18:55, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Use the article talk page for suggestions. The Afd isn't really the place for COI discussions. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:17, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I have not been able to find enough to support our notability requirements for WP:GNG or WP:ARTIST. There is one article that is an interview and therefore a primary source which does not count towards SIgCOV in RS, and another article that is a human interest story, rather than a critical review or analysis of his work. Netherzone (talk) 23:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Wikipedia is not supposed to be a platform for promoting ones career.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.