Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Hurst

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The result was keep. Topic shown to be notable per article improvement subsequent to nomination. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:21, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Hurst[edit]

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This article on a writer and director has been tagged for notability since 2016. There are no footnotes and the external links are IMDB and the subject's homepage. I have carried out WP:BEFORE but not found anything to add. Tacyarg (talk) 17:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Tacyarg (talk) 17:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No independent sources. A notable director would be mentioned in reviews, and there are none. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:29, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete there are no independent reliable sources.John Pack Lambert (talk)
Keep As a TV writer he seems to meet at least point 3 of WP:AUTHOR - "3.The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work" as he wrote or co-wrote multiple episodes of Miranda, Secret Diary of a Call Girl and Bluestone 42. Being nominated for an Laurence Olivier Award and a Royal Society of Television award and winning the Harold Hobson Drama Award and the RSC's Buzz Goodbody Director Award at the National Student Drama Festival seems to meet point 1 of WP:ANYBIO. In addition there has been some coverage and reviews eg [1], [2] [3], [4]. -- P-K3 (talk) 14:54, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Was he actually nominated for an Olivier Award, Hobson award or Goodbody award? These assertions in the article are completely unreferenced. And being a co-writer of TV episodes does not make you notable, even if it is true, which we can't tell in most of the cases, due to the lack of referencing. Your first citation claims that something is scheduled to happen. Did it actually happen? Your second ref is a review of a short-running pantomime production, apparently with no notable cast members, of which there are hundreds (thousands?) in the UK every Christmas. The third ref is an interview, not a review. The last ref is from a deprecated source, the Daily Mail, so we can't even cite it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:54, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he was nominated for an Olivier for Potted Panto verified here. I have not been able to find a complete list of National Student Drama Festival Awards, as he won in the mid 1990s such information may not be online. His website says he won for the play Violent Night. You say being a co-writer of TV episodes does not make you notable but that's not how I read Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals, which I have already linked above. It specifically says "television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series" and Hurst has co-written 17 episodes of Miranda, three episodes of Secret Diary of a Call Girl, and three series of Bluestone 42, which he also co-created. Such information is easily verifible, the credits of the episodes themselves serve as a reference. I am aware that the Daily Mail is a deprecated source but I was responding to your assertion that his work has received "no reviews" which is plainly not the case. Here's one from The Guardian, where he is indirectly referred to as the "Miranda writing team."-- P-K3 (talk) 13:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You ought to add the best cites to the article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:50, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done.-- P-K3 (talk) 14:52, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:HEY. Kudos to Pawnkingthree. Bearian (talk) 19:49, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Pawnkingthree's work. Haukur (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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