Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Bonehill

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The result was keep. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 10:53, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Richard Bonehill

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Non-notable actor and stuntman. Nothing to support notability as an actor and all references are obituaries (WP:NOTMEMORIAL). I don't believe that winning an over 60 fencing championship is sufficient to claim notability as an athlete.Mdtemp (talk) 20:36, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk 20:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk 20:43, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

• Keep. Obituaries in The Independent,[1] The Hollywood Reporter,[2] and Variety,[3] among others, indicate the Force was strong in this one. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
• Keep While perhaps not bestowing notability seperately, the confluence of stunt work esp swordmastery; star wars character roles; and a world fencing title makes this guy notable. I find your lack of faith disturbing.-Kiwipat (talk) 07:24, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
• Comment The fact that there is no coverage that predates his death makes this look like a memorial to me. All of the previously given sources are based on a press release from his fencing club--not independent or sufficient to show notability (no matter how many sources use info from the one release). Being in Star Wars does not guarantee notability and he doesn't meet WP:ATHLETE since a senior (over 60) title can not be considered as competing at the highest level.Mdtemp (talk) 20:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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• Reply. His obituary has been published internationally; that's just unheard of for a minor actor. Huffington Post UK, Entertainment Weekly, even IGN Africa, the list just goes on and on. Apparently being in two Star Wars movies does establish notability in the press's eyes. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:31, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

• Delete Agree with nom. No coverage before his death makes this look like a memorial and that he's notable because he died. This is not a Star Wars fan site. 204.126.132.231 (talk) 18:34, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
• Keep winning over 60 fencing championship is notable. Redsky89 (talk) 18:53, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Not really. That could be anything from local club competitions on up. Did he compete at the highest level?Peter Rehse (talk) 19:06, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

• Keep He was Veterans Sabre World Champion in 2010, he was also a fencing coach, and he did stunt work in films. that seems notable enough the page just needs more work. Dman41689 (talk) 08:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
• Comment Its worth adding that at the 2010 world vets championship, he was presented with a commemorative diploma from the Fédération Internationale d'Escrime, the world governing body of fencing, to mark his 'extraordinary achievement' of representing Great Britain at 10 consecutive World Championships. source-Kiwipat (talk) 08:22, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
• Keep WP:NSPORT states that sports figures are likely to meet Wikipedia's basic standards of inclusion if they have, for example, participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level (such as the Olympics). To me, world championships of an Olympic sport are competition of the highest level. While one can dispute my position I think someone competing 10 consecutive times shows that for a career that person competed at the highest level and thus meets the guideline. RonSigPi (talk) 23:49, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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