Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rev. Fr. Dr. Jesu Pudumai Doss

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The result was keep. While there was some debate at the start of this AfD, there is a clear consensus to keep. I'll move the page after closing this AfD. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:59, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rev. Fr. Dr. Jesu Pudumai Doss[edit]

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Person not notable. No references cited and the claim of authoring books could not be found on Google search. (ISBN number also not quoted by author). Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 07:57, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. For whether he meets WP:PROF, I'll ping User:Randykitty. It doesn't seem to me to pass that, or WP:AUTHOR, and while we have no WP:PRIEST, his position doesn't seem to be high enough (bishop or equivalent), but perhaps someone else can shed more light. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:17, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (in response to Piotrus' ping): I don't see any claim in the article that would meet PROF. A (cursory) Google Scholar search does not unearth anything either. --Randykitty (talk) 08:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: "claim of authoring books" is definitely established by Google (try searching just on the surname, "Pudumai Doss" — the first name is often abbreviated to J, and the "Rev. Fr. Dr." would skew any search). As far as I can tell, though, he doesn't meet either WP:AUTHOR or WP:PROF (his appointment as dean of his faculty was widely reported, but apparently all in periodicals run by the order he's a member of). I don't know enough about canon law tribunals to gauge whether his work as a judge, defender, etc. is notable. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 22:18, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 14:40, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete — Google Scholar shows only a handful of publications (less then 10) with a total of three citations. None of those publications are indexed by a major peer-reviews academic journal or database. These numbers are not enough to corroborate WP:N. JP Doss is just a dean of an unknown Italian University, so he is not doing any research activities, therefor he fails WP:PROF too. Toffanin (talk) 22:01, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You should not expect to find Catholic theology in the usual citation indices, which anyway do not handle the arts well, let alone theology. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:15, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- WE normally allow articles on professors (in the European sense). Dean is a more senior academic post. I am not qualified to judge the merits of his publications and merely note that he has several books, presumably academic ones. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:13, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Actually, no, we don't usually keep professors in the European sense, nor deans for that matter (see WP:PROF). And while Catholic theology may be less well covered in the usual citation indices, it is covered in Google Scholar, which turns up nothing. --Randykitty (talk) 20:23, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and move to Jesu Pudumai Doss. Per WP:LAWYERS and WP:ANYBIO 1, due to his appointment as a consultor to the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life [1] and his appointment as Defender of the Bond for ratum et non consummatum cases of the Roman Rota.[2]--Samuel J. Howard (talk) 13:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Swarm ♠ 04:04, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and move per Samuel J. Howard. As dean and as a canon lawyer, he's notable. Bearian (talk) 18:32, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as significant scholar of canon law.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and move as per Samuel J. Howard. Satisfies WP:SCHOLAR. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:21, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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