Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Republican Guard (Moldova)

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The result was merge to Military of Moldova. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:40, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Republican Guard (Moldova)[edit]

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A poorly referenced and misleading article. Actually this entity doesn't exist in Moldova. It existed for less than two months (02.11.1990 - 29.12.1990) in pre-independence Moldova,[1] and probably it's not notable. XXN, 22:29, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment.Would seem that this is could be deleted, if this unit was only formed for a small time. Deathlibrarian (talk) 08:015 October 2017 (UTC)
According to the first source this force lasted until at least February 1992, and acted as Moldova's army during the period spanning Moldova's declaration of independence from the Soviet Union. If this isn't kept as a separate article it should be merged with Military of Moldova. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 09:57, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:50, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:50, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Moldova-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:50, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~. Is discussed in a number of sources - e.g. [2], [3] [4]. Was active in the prelude Transnistria War (a hot conflict from November 1990), and seems this was active per some sources until 1992.Icewhiz (talk) 12:25, 15 October 2017 (UTC) Mod below.Icewhiz (talk) 14:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Icewhiz, 86.17.222.157, On the contrary, the other cited additional sources confirms that the Republican Guard was disbanded in December 1990. The sentence from this source is confusing and it's not clear if it's about Republican Guard: "[...] The government garnered additional recruits by initiating a universal draft in February 1992. [...]" - this may refer also to other forces, e.g. to the regular Armed Forces of Moldova which were formed on 3 September 1991[5]. Almost all [if not all] sources found regarding the Republican Guard are just passing mentions - no detailed description; and also there is not even clear if the guard has participated in the war (no one of these sources states this explicitly, and reading 3 wiki articles about the war [en,ro,ru] I don't see mentioned the republican guard for Moldovan side). Is this enough to establish the notability for this entity - probably not? XXN, 13:52, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Military of Moldova. It is unclear how long it lasted. The op on 2 November 1990 is described to have been taken by "special police" and not the guard. Note that sourcing here is complicated by the PMR/Transnistria/Dnestr Republican Guard (on the other side of the river conflict) which was active through the war. The military of Moldova should mention the beginning of the force in the Soviet breakup phase.Icewhiz (talk) 14:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@XXN: Those other sources are primary sources: a decree signed by Gorbachev demanding that the Supreme Soviet of Moldova withdraws the decree forming this force, and the other from the Moldovans agreeing to this, but they don't confirm that the force was actually disbanded. I am not from that part of the world, but do remember that things were happening very quickly in the Soviet Union at that time and not always on a strictly legal basis, so we shouldn't rely on such primary sources but rather use secondary sources that analyze things after the event. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 17:27, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:19, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge / Redirect to Military of Moldova, since it appears to be a very short lived unit with no obvious relevance and limited sources. Dysklyver
Keep Meets WP:MILUNIT as an organization with a peak size of at least 15,000, covered in secondary sources[6], implicated in war crimes, and participated in the conflicts in the wake of the Soviet coup attempt in that country. Just needs work and the attention of a motivated editor. LargelyRecyclable (talk) 18:53, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
War crimes? XXN, 21:12, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's phrased as "human rights violations", I suppose because the conflict wasn't a declared war, but yeah. LargelyRecyclable (talk) 23:30, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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