Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Religious harmony in India (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. SK#1: nom withdrawn, and no other deletion arguments (non-admin closure) czar · · 17:58, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Religious harmony in India[edit]

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We have multiple articles covering this subject Religion in India, Indian religions, either delete or merge content to those articles. Tito☸Dutta 16:43, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~, this does seem a clear case of reinventing the wheel. Nom has identified existing articles which cover this ground adequately. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:24, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to any one of the articles mentioned by the nominator. 069952497a^{Comments and complaints}_{Stuff I've done} 20:53, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:13, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:13, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Though the material looks little now, there is wide scope of improvement. I think that the article can stay for a longer time and if it does not improve, then we can start this discussion. Thanks. --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 03:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but maybe under a different title. The concept of harmony between different religions has a long history in India. Note that the article is not saying that there is now religious harmony in India, but that lots of people want (and have wanted) there to be.Kitfoxxe (talk) 03:34, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I don’t see how this topic is covered in Religion in India and/or Indian religions. (On the contrary, those two are almost same.) And the topic itself is notable, not just on merits of how many notable people have opined on it but also because there are many incidences showing it. For example, many Hindus visit Ajmer Sharif and Muslims worship Lalbaugcha Raja. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 18:10, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think it needs a better title. But not sure what. Steve Dufour (talk) 05:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We have a article titled Religious conflicts in India and then the opposite pole of it would be Religious harmony in India. So i don't see the title as completely absurd. But i am open to another name also. (I actually also don't see whats the different between the conflicts article and Religious violence in India.) §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I said 'delete' as I felt that the stub had nothing to add to the main article already named. However it is plainly right that Religious harmony / Religious conflict (should have no -s, by the way, it's an abstract noun) be covered somewhere: the titles are certainly not 'absurd'. The only question for me is whether this pair need subsidiary articles or can be covered as sections in a main article. For what it's worth, there ought to be sections somewhere on 1) the need for harmony; 2) instances of harmony; 3) initiatives to improve harmony. All these of course need citations. So, happy to change my vote. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Even I, living 10,000 miles from India and mainly knowing about it through PBS documentary series, know that it's an important concept to lots of Indian people. Steve Dufour (talk) 13:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment When I nominated it for deletion there was nothing in the article other than a quote of a film actor. Note, the concept of "Religious harmony in India" is a branch of "Unity of diversity in India", which is taught is Indian schools and covers all topics like languages (India has hundreds of languages), culture, physical built differences etc. So, I'll not mind if the article is moved as a part to Unity in diversity in India.
I do not know what PBS showed in their documentary, but, see Religious violence in India. I am very much interested to see how the article is developed. To discuss "Religious harmony in India", context of Indian religion is needed, so, that article will be a better place initially. --Tito☸Dutta 18:20, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Religious harmony is an age old concept not only in India but large part of asia.The concept is dealt by many scholars over many centuries and certainly outgrows any recentism.If we search books on subject,obeviously, there is more than enough FA level encyclopedic content is available for the subject.

This big enough FA level encyclopedic article on this subject can provide concise paragraphs for all rest of articles mentioned above.

If we try to push in the article in some other article a lot of encyclopedic content meant for this article will remain out of scope/context for other articles.Work of many kings , saints, poets and scholars can not be given justice to their work on religious harmony unless we have article on this subject.

For most asians "religious harmony" is the right wording and for that people will join here to write.The people who will be writing will be scholars and it will be maintained encyclopedic. And still if people want to change name merge it some where else it can be discussed in long run on article talk page itself.

Is it really necessary to delete an FA level encyclopedic potential article before giving an opportunity to grow ?

Regards

Mahitgar (talk) 04:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the post above? Anyway, Wikipedia is not written only by scholars.--Tito☸Dutta 05:03, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Titodutta, there was not 'only' a quote from the actor. Instead there was other stuff as well when the article was nominated for the discussion. Following material was there in the article when the article was nominated for the deletion. Thanks. The material which was present when the article was nominated for deletion - "Religious harmony in India is a concept that idicates that there is love, affection in between different religions in India. There are examples of Muslims and Sikhs building temples.[1]In India, different religious traditions "live harmoniously. Seers of religions call for religious harmony in India.[2] For popular film stars in India like Salman Khan, festivals of Hindus and Muslims are equal.[3]" -- Abhijeet Safai (talk) 06:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Steve D. Bearian (talk) 19:22, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It is an important concept no doubt. The page looks promising. Should be allowed to survive and get developed into a good article over time.Shyamsunder (talk) 02:55, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw: Per Dharmadhakshya and Shyamsunder. some content added recently, let's see how it goes. --Tito☸Dutta 04:28, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Tiodutta, Thanks a lot. :) --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 05:06, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Now i can ask you to add Vivekananda's views and actions on the topic as you can do it better than anyone else. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 08:03, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. I'll add some content from this historic speech --Tito☸Dutta 08:18, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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