Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reed Cowan

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 21:26, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reed Cowan[edit]

Delete for non-notability. Reed Cowan is but one of many, many local news anchors and reporters in the US. He is not Brian Williams Arbiteroftruth ^{Plead Your Case} 19:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete sad story, but WP≠NEWS. fails WP:BIO. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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KEEP Sure he's one of many... and he might never be listed among The Greats... but as an Emmy Winner and because he gets significant coverage in reliable sources, he qualifies for inclusion. 2008 Emmy recipients, WSNV 1, CBS News, Utah Radio News {forum), Power In You, WSVN 2, CNN, Wesley Smiles, et al. The article requires WP:CLEANUP, not deletion. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 04:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE Since the article was nominated, it has been cleaned up and sourced. Notability has been established. Ain't perfect.. but its now worth keeping. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:42, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment- Note, he is the winner of a Regional Emmy, not a National Emmy. I was there when he received the award. Many Regional Emmy winners don't have articles here on Wikipedia. What makes Cowan so special here? Also, the "reliable source" you cited were mostly from stations that he worked in, networks that his station affiliates with, or the organization he established. Those are not independent sources at all. Arbiteroftruth ^{Plead Your Case} 05:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response That other winners do not have articles on Wiki is a good reason to write about them and not delete articles on the ones that do. That aside, Cowan is particulary notable because having completely re-evaluated himself after a personal tradgedy. In order to help others, Cowan released an award-winning documentary on the very personal tradgedy of death of his son and his own subsequent efforts to build schools in Kenya during that country's post-election violence of 2007. Cowan started The Wesley Smiles Coalition to work in tandem with Free the Children. After raising substantial monies for the projects in Africa in the first year after his son's death, Cowan opened schools, water treatment facilities, mobile-medical clinics and other community infrastructure along Enelerai road in Kenya and in Kenya's Motoni district. Cowan is on the advisory board for Free The Children and is producer of the youth organization Power In You. Cowan drafted the first legislation in Utah specifically aimed at curbing bullying in school. Sponsored in the Utah house by Representative Ronda Menlove and in the Utah Senate by Senator Patrice M. Arent, the resolution against bullying, harassment and intimidation in schools was the first of its kind and called for a formal reporting system and cohesive school-to-school response in instances of school bullying. The resolution passed unanimously in Utah's House and Senate. But of course... all this is IN the article. His notability exceeds wiki requirements. Thank you for voicing your concern over the Emmy awards. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- Resolutions in State Legislatures are also not an indication of a person's notability. Many, many resolutions on many, many different people are passed in State Legislatures each session, for a variety of reasons. Also, the term "award-winning" is cliche. Winning an Emmy can be "award-winning", while winning the "Block 5 of 14th Street Award for Excellence" (made up award) can be "award-winning". Also, having an epiphany after a personal tragedy is not a notable matter. Many people have such transformations. Arbiteroftruth ^{Plead Your Case} 06:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You might consider revisiting the article. Per guideline for notability, he has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject. If you do not agree, nothing will change your mind. It is hoped a closing admin will see it a bit differently Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 19:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I don't beleive there is a consensus that regional awards of this nature are indicia of notability. There is no other material claim of notability. Bongo matic 06:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

??? That is not the only sourced assertion of notability... and you and I am a bit confused by you picking out only one of the many sourced assertions of notability within the article. I assume good faith that it is possible that you perhaps inadvertantly missed all other assertions of notability. Why not revisit it to see its further improvement since you decided his Emmys don't count. Notability is confirmed by significant coverage by multiple sources NOT related to the subject: Deseret News [1]][2][3], WHDH-TV of Boston, Massachusettes [4], Time Magazine [5], Youth Crime Watch of America[6], Phoenix Woman[7], National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences [8], QSaltLake [9], CBS News [10], among others... as well as having a superfluity of WP:V.. but then... these ARE in the article. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 19:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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