Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Razzleberry pie

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:38, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Razzleberry pie[edit]

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This seems to more of a joke fruit than an actual, traditional pie filling: the article was at one point mostly pop culture references to razzleberries. The source cited in the article is a recipe blog about how someone "decided to figure out how to make a razzleberry pie" in 2014, and the only other reference I can find is that Marie Callender's calls their frozen raspberry/blackberry product a "Razzleberry® Fruit Pie" ([1]). I can't find it in any recipe books. Lord Belbury (talk) 11:35, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Lord Belbury (talk) 11:35, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are a lot of nonce usages of this for people who want a generic placeholder for an unspecified type of fruit pie, or just want a silly word for a children's story, but no distinct documented concept of a razzleberry that I can find. And the history of the article shows that ideas of what this is have been all over the place, with no coherent idea of what this concept is. This is what deletion policy used to call "an idiosyncratic non-topic". Uncle G (talk) 15:30, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The sourcing is just not there for the claims being made in the article. The term has mainly been a fill in term. The pie product from a major retailer is not important on its own to justify the article, and we do not have the good, firm secondary source coverage we would need to justify this article. Before we can have this article we need someone basically to publish in a reliable source a history of the use of the term razzleberry. As it stands now this violates the rule against original research in Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:59, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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