Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raz Gal-Or

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Raz Gal-Or

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Non notable businessman. Article is based on PR pieces mostly. Only claim to fame is a social media group. Altogether a hodgepodge of PR and promo MistyGraceWhite (talk) 10:50, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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Re: "Article is based on PR pieces mostly." - They are multiple Wikipedia:Secondary sources and from newspaper publications such as South China Morning Post and Mainland Chinese publications such as Sixth Tone and Sixth Tone, China Daily, and Xinhua. It is common for biographical newspaper pieces to have a somewhat positive slant, but the pieces were not directly written by a PR firm.

WP:GNG states: "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list."

Wikipedia:Notability (people) also states: "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject."

The fact that he's known because of his social media activities (his stated occupation) does not prevent him from being notable under these guidelines.

WhisperToMe (talk) 16:33, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@User:WhisperToMe Significant coverage means something more than a passing mention or a PR piece. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 18:17, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

None of these articles are "passing mentions". A passing mention is defined like this in Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline:

• "Martin Walker's statement, in a newspaper article about Bill Clinton,[1] that "In high school, he was part of a jazz band called Three Blind Mice" is plainly a trivial mention of that band."

These articles have Raz Gal-Or or his group as the main subject.

I understand your concern over "PR pieces" but these are not written by PR companies but by journalists. It is common for newspapers to sometimes give positive or even glowing coverage to people, but I don't consider these to be "PR pieces".

WhisperToMe (talk) 18:25, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
  1. Tang, Frank (2017-11-25). "How the Israeli who captured Chinese hearts plans to turn online fame into fortune". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2020-02-16. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  2. Li, Han (2018-06-28). Zhang, Bo; O'Donnell, Kilian (eds.). "Nut Cases: How Foreign Viral Video Stars Are Defying Stereotypes". Sixth Tone. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  3. Ma, Qian; Deng, Xianlai (2017-10-22). "Young Israeli entrepreneur finds his future in China with expat-friendly platform". Shanghai Daily. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  4. Mengqi, Pan (2017-10-05). "Foreign faces win netizens' hearts: Israeli student among growing group of expats hitting the big time with online shows". China Daily. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  5. Yurou, ed. (2018-09-05). "Israeli entrepreneur shares "unlocking China" stories in Tel Aviv". Xinhua News Agency. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  6. 宋心蕊; 赵光霞, eds. (2019-12-04). "歪果仁研究协会会长高佑思："90后"洋网红的中国追梦记" [Gao Yousi, President of the Crooked Nut Research Association: "Post-90s" The Dream of China]. Nanfang Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  7. 陈洋 (2019-06-12). 梁宇芳 (ed.). "高佑思　一个90后犹太人的中国式成长" [Gao Yousi, a post-90s Jewish person's Chinese-style growth]. Sina Corp. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  8. Qing, Li (2020-02-23). "A Record Sixteen Days". Beijing Review. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  9. 高辰, ed. (2017-05-17). "微信发布在华"老外"用户大数据：六成人用微信支付" [WeChat released big data for "foreigners" users in China: Six adults pay with WeChat] (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27.

  Sources with quotes

  Tang, Frank (2017-11-25). "How the Israeli who captured Chinese hearts plans to turn online fame into fortune". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2020-02-16. Retrieved 2020-04-27. The article notes: It is a hard thing for foreigners to be accepted by the Chinese public. Among the few successful ones, Raz Gal-Or must be one of the smartest, and possibly the youngest, having gained huge popularity through internet. The 23-year-old, born in a small town near Tel Aviv in Israel first came to the public’s attention when he appeared on a Chinese television programme. What propelled him to nationwide fame, however, were series of short videos he produced and sometimes hosted in which foreign residents shared their perspective on Chinese matters. The videos produced by the Foreigners Research Institute, cofounded by Gal-Or last year, were so funny that they successfully captured the heart of millions of youngsters. ... He later moved to Beijing because he had developed a “love for the culture, the language, the curiosity and opportunities”, and chose to study international relations at Peking University to get a sense of the country’s diplomatic thinking and impact on the future. Li, Han (2018-06-28). Zhang, Bo; O'Donnell, Kilian (eds.). "Nut Cases: How Foreign Viral Video Stars Are Defying Stereotypes". Sixth Tone. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27. The article notes: Beginning in late 2016, people passing through Wudaokou — a Beijing neighborhood popular among the city’s foreign population thanks to its proximity to nearby universities — might have noticed a young man strolling around the area, trying to talk to his fellow foreigners on-camera. Though the dark-haired expat is often politely but firmly rejected by those he is attempting to interview, he deftly edits the footage he gets into five-minute video clips that often go viral on social media apps and streaming platforms, such as Weibo, WeChat, and Bilibili. The young man conducting the interviews is Raz Galor — also known by his Chinese name, Gao Yousi. A 23-year-old Israeli, Galor received his bachelor’s degree from Peking University. In 2016, Galor founded a startup with Chinese classmate Fang Yedun, and they now run one of the most popular social media accounts that depicts the daily lives of foreigners in China and has 2.28 million followers on Twitter-like Weibo. The startup’s Chinese name translates to “The Crooked Nuts Research Institute,” and is a pun on the Chinese word for “foreigner,” which — when said in a foreign accent — can sound like “crooked nut.” This malapropism has become a popular and amusing — if gently and friendly teasing — way of referring to foreigners among Chinese. Ma, Qian; Deng, Xianlai (2017-10-22). "Young Israeli entrepreneur finds his future in China with expat-friendly platform". Shanghai Daily. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27. The article notes: RAZ Gal Or had traded in his usual jeans and T-shirt for something more arresting. He wore a flowing robe in deep blue while on his head was perched a tall white hat. Instead of the fourth-year Peking University (PKU) undergraduate student that he was, he looked like someone from the pages of ancient Chinese history. And that was exactly what the 23-year-old Israeli student was aiming at. He was made up to look like Wang Yun, a bureaucrat in the Eastern Han dynasty (25—220), who was also known for his involvement in a coup against a tyrant. While it was a spoof, it was also very serious on one level. It was the first in the series of vox-pop videos made by Gal Or’s startup. The episode by Foreigner Research Institute, or YChina, the shorter name by which Gal Or is now promoting his organization, got more than 10,000 thumb-ups after being posted on China’s social media Weibo on September 14. ... The Gal Ors were living in Hong Kong before they came to Beijing. His father Amir Gal Or, who is also a major investor in YChina, moved business from Hong Kong to Beijing in 2012. It was then that Gal Or junior moved to the mainland after finishing high school in Hong Kong. When he was living in Hong Kong, Gal Or said he little understood the Chinese language and culture. So after taking up residence in Beijing, he began studying Chinese language intensively, which meant four hours of one-on-one courses every day. Mengqi, Pan (2017-10-05). "Foreign faces win netizens' hearts: Israeli student among growing group of expats hitting the big time with online shows". China Daily. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27. The article notes: Raz Galor has entered the building. The 24-year-old Israeli internet star holds up a smartphone to capture the reaction before settling down with about 100 fans for an evening of playing games, signing photos and answering questions. Galor has been hot property since December when he started hosting a video series called The Foreigners Research Institute. Each episode lasts under five minutes and features on-street interviews with expatriates in China about cultural quirks and the latest trends. The first video racked up more than 4 million views across multiple social media platforms, including Youku, Sina Weibo and Bilibili. Since then, Galor－known locally as Gao Yousi－has produced over 50 more episodes and gained more than 5 million online followers. Yurou, ed. (2018-09-05). "Israeli entrepreneur shares "unlocking China" stories in Tel Aviv". Xinhua News Agency. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27. The article notes: An Israeli young entrepreneur, founder of a China-oriented online video startup, on Tuesday gave a lecture in Israel's harbor city of Tel Aviv on his story and experience in China. Raz Galor's lecture, titled "Unlocking China: Media and Marketing Trends in Asia's Biggest Market," shared his story of creating Ychina, or Foreigner Research Institute, a cross-border video channel network featuring Chinese culture, entertainment and technology through the eyes of foreigners living in China. ... The online video startup has already gathered millions of followers on Chinese social media networks. The videos are about expatriates' life in China in the form of vox pops, which include random interviews with foreigners in China and their study of Chinese history. 宋心蕊; 赵光霞, eds. (2019-12-04). "歪果仁研究协会会长高佑思："90后"洋网红的中国追梦记" [Gao Yousi, President of the Crooked Nut Research Association: "Post-90s" The Dream of China]. Nanfang Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27. The article notes: 高亢的音乐声中，高佑思和三位小伙伴在广州塔下亮相，尝试一种刺激的城市玩法——请路人随机指引，兵分四路在广州各地打卡，笑点频出……这个歪果仁研究协会关于广东的最新作品，收获了不俗流量。“对所有人多元记忆的包容，就是城市灵魂的所在。”视频结尾时，高佑思这样说。 歪果仁研究协会是自媒体机构“外国人研究协会”的音译。25岁的会长高佑思身材颀长、风趣幽默，有着超乎年龄的成熟与对中国的深厚了解。他带着一批“老铁”，娴熟地游走在跨文化语境中，用话筒和镜头，展示外国人眼中的多样中国，同时将真实的中国搬上国际舞台。 From Google Translate: In the high-pitched music, Gao Yousi and three friends appeared under the Guangzhou Tower, trying an exciting city gameplay-ask passers-by to randomly guide, pawning four roads to punch in all parts of Guangzhou, laughing frequently ... This crooked nut The latest work of the Research Association on Guangdong has gained good traffic. "Tolerating multiple memories for everyone is where the soul of the city is." Gao Yousi said at the end of the video. Crooked Nut Research Association is a transliteration of the "Foreign Research Association" from the media agency. The 25-year-old president Gao Yousi is tall and humorous, has a mature beyond the age and a deep understanding of China. He took a group of "old irons" and skillfully walked in the cross-cultural context, using microphones and lenses to show the diverse China in the eyes of foreigners, and at the same time put the real China on the international stage. 陈洋 (2019-06-12). 梁宇芳 (ed.). "高佑思　一个90后犹太人的中国式成长" [Gao Yousi, a post-90s Jewish person's Chinese-style growth]. Sina Corp. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27. The article notes: 这是高佑思来到北京的第7年，创业的第5年，成为“网红”的第3年。他的故事，既是一个以马云为创业偶像的犹太年轻人的故事，一个关于融入、奋斗、焦虑和野心的故事，也是一个不同又相同的中国式成长故事。 ... 高佑思13岁那年，高哲铭决定将公司从以色列迁往香港。那时，还只会说希伯来语的高佑思被送入了一所加拿大国际学校。为了让儿子更快适应，高哲铭建议高佑思参选学生会主席。那时候，高佑思刚刚进入11年级，远不是那种最受欢迎的学生，甚至连英文也说得不太好。可即便如此，高佑思还是听从了父亲的建议，他一头扎进了备战中，从宣讲、拉票，一路走到最后的竞选演讲。 ... 高佑思家有四个孩子，他是长子。从小，他跟父亲的关系就很好。如今，他和父母、 弟弟、妹妹一起居住在北京。他的微信头像也是小时候和父亲的合影 From Google Translate: This is the 7th year of Gao Yousi's coming to Beijing, the 5th year of starting a business, and the 3rd year of becoming a "net red". His story is not only a story of a Jewish young man who uses Jack Ma as a startup icon, but also a story about integration, struggle, anxiety and ambition, but also a different and same Chinese-style growth story. ... When Gao Yousi was 13, Gao Zheming decided to move the company from Israel to Hong Kong. At that time, Gao Yousi, who spoke only Hebrew, was sent to a Canadian international school. In order to allow his son to adapt more quickly, Gao Zheming suggested that Gao Yousi be elected president of the Student Union. At that time, Gao Yousi had just entered the 11th grade, which was far from the most popular student. Even English was not very good. But even so, Gao Yousi listened to his father's suggestion, he plunged into preparations, from preaching, canvassing, and all the way to the final election speech. ... Gao Yousi has four children, he is the eldest son. From an early age, he had a good relationship with his father. Today, he lives in Beijing with his parents, younger brother and younger sister. His WeChat profile picture was also taken with his father when he was a child Qing, Li (2020-02-23). "A Record Sixteen Days". Beijing Review. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27. The article notes: When Raz Gal Or was waiting at the Beijing Capital International Airport to catch a flight to Tel Aviv ahead of the Spring Festival, both the 26-year-old entrepreneur and his traveling companion Brian O' Shea were struck by the number of people wearing masks in the airport. Having been preoccupied with their business, they were not aware before that an epidemic was spreading in Wuhan, Hubei Province in central China. Several days later, they collected 229 boxes of medical supplies in Israel within one day, and successful donated them to Huanggang, east Hubei on February 9 to assist the fight against the epidemic. The whole donation process of 384 hours, is recorded in a book, "China, We Got Your Back", published in Chinese and English by New Star Press, a Beijing-based publishing house under the China International Publishing Group. The book, which is the first in subject of fighting against the novel coronavirus, also witness the selfless assistance to Hubei and cooperation between young Israeli and Chinese entrepreneurs. ... The first-born of a successful Israeli entrepreneur who has business in China, Raz Gal Or has lived in Beijing for over 12 years. In 2014, he became the first Israeli under-graduate student of Peking University. Raz Gal Or is co-founder of YChina, also known as the Foreigner Research Institute, a business development company specializing in China. Uploading videos that sharing thoughts of young generation of foreigners in China, YChina has soon attracted millions of fans after releasing its first video in January 2017. 高辰, ed. (2017-05-17). "微信发布在华"老外"用户大数据：六成人用微信支付" [WeChat released big data for "foreigners" users in China: Six adults pay with WeChat] (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 2020-04-27. Retrieved 2020-04-27. The article notes: 高佑思是以色列人，1994年出生，目前正在北京大学国际关系学院就读大三，也是“歪果仁研究协会”会长。他汉语说得非常好，各种中国网络用语信手拈来，然而他学中文也只不过四年半的时间。 高佑思用“老外2.0”来概括这种现象，“这已经是新的时代了，很多人都在玩中国人的APP、中国人的游戏、在中国读大学、会说中国话。很多人真的想在中国发展，有自己的中国梦。”他说到。 From Google Translate: Gao Yousi is an Israeli. He was born in 1994. He is currently in his junior year at the School of International Relations at Peking University. He is also the president of the "Corrugated Nut Research Association". He speaks Chinese very well, and all kinds of Chinese online language are handy. However, he has only been learning Chinese for four and a half years. Gao Yousi used "Foreigner 2.0" to summarize this phenomenon, "This is a new era. Many people are playing Chinese apps, Chinese games, studying in China, and can speak Chinese. Many people really Want to develop in China, have their own Chinese dream. "He said. "Cashless" has a profound impact, 6 out of 10 foreigners use WeChat to pay.

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Raz Gal-Or to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 06:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:35, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

• Keep per Cunard and WhisperToMe. - Flori4nKT A L K 11:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep per Cunard. good job on the sources.Grmike (talk) 13:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)grmike

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