Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randy J. Goodwin

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There is a question here about notability but no general agreement. Some sources have been provided in the article, so I see no policy mandating deletion, and so this will default with the no consensus result. Sjakkalle (Check!) 17:41, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Randy J. Goodwin[edit]

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Contested PROD with Starred in two television series and recurred in three others. Biographical article about an actor. Six pages into a Google search I can't seem to find anything that would establish basic notability under WP:GNG, and also fails WP:ACTOR as far as I can tell. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 02:19, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. The individual in the article does meet the criteria for WP:ENT. Silver Buizel (talk) 02:02, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Which one? Criteria #1 specifies significant roles, and I'm not seeing significance in any of them. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:52, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran (t • c) 09:50, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. In addition to provided reason, there are also Alternatives to Deletion. Silver Buizel (talk) 19:40, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete - This looks like someone right on the fence notability-wise. I could be persuaded to keep this, but not without much better references. The article currently has two: one is a dead blog, and the other is that child support bit that should probably be removed as undue weight anyways. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:42, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran (t • c) 09:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to incubator - as Bongwarrior says, right on the fence. He could be definitively notable later, but that isn't a reason to keep the current article in main space. It can always be re-created. Perhaps move it to Wikipedia:Article incubator for now? ~Amatulić (talk) 17:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and allow stub to continue to grow over time and through regular editing. While sure, this fellow gets a LOT of one-ofs in episodic televison, his being verifiable in significant recurring roles as Kennedy Winslow in 23 episodes pf Fast Track, as Dante Harrison in 12 episodes of Linc's, as Max Ellis in 10 episodes of Abby, as Davis Hamilton in 8 episodes of Girlfriends, and as Dr. Jonas Martin in 6 episodes of The Vampire Diaries meet the criteria for inclusion set by WP:ENT, Rather than look at the least of an actor's roles, we instead look to the best and then consider overall career. With respects to the nominator, we look to SNG's such WP:ENT when we have difficulty under GNG. Your own nomination underscores a meeting of ENT even as it states he fails it. See WP:GNGACTOR. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 09:06, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for now - Usually, I agree with MichaelQSchmidt (we agreed on Emma Degerstedt and I think others) but I feel there isn't much for a better article at this time. Google News searches for The Vampire Diaries, Abby and Girlfriends provided several TV listings thus minor mentions with even one for CSI: Crime Scene Investigation here and a few for Linc's. Unfortunately, I would like to have found some theatre roles but, alas, no. Indeed, his longest role was for Fast Track with some results here (mainly foreign but there is one Chicago Sun-Times article from 1997). Although this is similar to Emma Degerstedt, this actor is a grown man so a younger actor (currently attending school) is understandable though young and old can achieve the same levels sometimes. In addition, it seems he hasn't been significantly active recently though if he does have a family then that makes sense. I wish I could say keep considering the patches of good roles but I have no prejudice towards a future article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwisterTwister (talk • contribs) 01:52, 24 January 2013‎
  • Keep. Has had nontrivial recurring roles in multiple notable TV series, meeting the requirements of WP:ENT. Therefore, highly plausible as a search term. Notability guidelines are intended to identify topics that users are likely to refer to an encyclopedia about, not as some sort of measure of the subjects themselves. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 22:12, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep - appears marginally notable, and the article needs some work, but it does appear he is meeting WP:ENT, and there is a fair amount of traffic to that page 1207 views in the last 60 days, which is pretty good for a new article for such a minor actor. Tiggerjay (talk) 16:50, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - passes WP:GNG even if not specifically WP:ENT#1. I found some reviews of his work as an actor in Variety, see, e.g., [1]. I saw a few more behind paywalls. Bearian (talk) 20:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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