Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rameshwar Dayal Dantare (Dantre)

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The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 16:24, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rameshwar Dayal Dantare (Dantre)[edit]

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New article for a man without sufficient notability who died two days ago, written like an obituary. Delete per WP:GNG, WP:MEMORIAL ColonelHenry (talk) 07:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE: Silaupura contacted me and asked for a little patience as he intends to improve the article.--ColonelHenry (talk) 21:04, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 13:48, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Biography-related deletion discussions. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 13:48, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 13:48, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He was a politician who lost elections at least twice; Madhya Pradesh Legislative Assembly election, 1990 as independent candidate[1] and in Indian general election, 1991 as Janata Party candidate.[2] Some more searching might be required to find about this fellow. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 13:56, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- Fails on primary notability guidelines for inclusion. Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability. Hitro talk 17:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: In addition to some failed attempts, he also won the 1972 MP Legislative Assembly elections as Samyukta Socialist Party's candidate thus passing WP:POLITICIAN.[3] §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 18:13, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: To expand on what User:Dharmadhyaksha said, the term MLA indicates he was a Member of the Legislative Assembly, meaning a member of a state legislature. Per WP:POLITICIAN, "members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature" are sufficiently notable for an article. The article Mehgaon (Vidhan Sabha constituency) lists this person as winning two elections, 1972 and 1977, and the subject article says he was "MLA from Mehgaon constituency during 1972–1980." The fact that the article needs a complete rewrite so that it is not an obituary, as well as sourcing, does not change the fact that the subject was notable. Neutron (talk) 18:25, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: User:Silaupura Dear friends: I need your help here. Now that participating members in debate are also pointing that Shri Rameshwar Dayal Dantre was a notable person and was a well known freedom fighter also; mistake is at my part where I do not know how to rewrite or improve this article to give it a professional look. Please give me some time. I am new to Wikipedia and its coding but I can learn very fast and want to contribute to wikipedia in my own capacity. http://www.linkedin.com/in/manojpachouri —Preceding undated comment added 03:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Note to admin: After keeping, move it to Rameshwar Dayal Dantre. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: User:Silaupura Hi §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C}; as you suggested to move to Rameshwar Dayal Dantre but his sir name has been spelled as Dantre and Dantare interchangeably in websites. So I wanted to make sure that his page gets listed in Google when searched by any 'Dantre' or 'Dantare' sirname. Please keep this searching point in mind and I request you to keep the page name as Rameshwar Dayal Dantre (Dantare)

Also I have come to know that Shri Dantare Ji (Freedom Fighter) also particiapted in MISA imposed by the then prime minister Mrs. Indira Gandhi and went to jail for couple of months. I will get documented proofs (certificates) when I go to his constituency from Bangalore next week.

Silaupura (talk) 07:03, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We don't keep two variable spellings in the title. We will create a redirect at Rameshwar Dayal Dantare so this spelling also appears in the search. You can provide other information as and when you get it. No rush. I have cleaned the article for now. If you wish to add more info, do it along with a reliable source that provides the info. Also i have striked off your keep vote and you have already voted once. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 07:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Silaupura Thanks §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C}. I liked your idea. Please rename this page to Rameshwar Dayal Dantre and a redirect can be created at Rameshwar Dayal Dantare so this spelling also appears in the search. As you would have observed, I have already started adding more info like birth and early life.

--Silaupura (talk) 17:35, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep - now since notability has been established. Jethwarp (talk) 05:54, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Editors and Moderators; I need your help to understand the verification process so that I can upload or send the death certificate or any other document in future. for proof of DoB, please refer to affidavit given to Election Commission of India on 24Nov2003 where his age was 74. By that calculation, his year of birth is 1929. http://eci.nic.in/archive/website_2/S12/10/Rameswer/Rameswer_SC1.html

I request you to not ask proofs for every small thing like schooling and childhood things. I am trying to write about a freedom fighter and social worker in 1930s when everything was not available on internet like now. If proofs are required for each and every of his work, I fear that his entire social work of more than 60 years work will not be able to come in public domain. He became Surpanch of Konhar village at age of 23 and continued social work till he died on 24th Jan 2014. Kindly have patience with me and before deleting something, ask me for proofs if required. Silaupura (talk) 09:17, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - @ Silaupura Although AfD is not the forum to discuss this, I am forced to comment here bco'z u r bringing it here. Please get aware of Wiki guidelines on creating an article. If you insist of adding unreferrenced and peacock lines, people may change their vote. Better start discussion on article talk page. Jethwarp (talk) 15:52, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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