Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pugapoo (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Poodle hybrid. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pugapoo[edit]

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No reliable sources found. While the result of the last deletion debate was merge (in June 2010), I don't see how any of this info could be worked in there.

It could theoretically be added to the List of dog hybrids page, but I think only those with articles should be listed -- there are endless possibilities for mixes and if reliable sources aren't required, any mix -- even if it's a one-off -- could be added. There are hundreds, probably thousands, of possible combos. — anndelion ※ 22:56, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organisms-related deletion discussions. — anndelion ※ 04:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep We already had this discussion and the result was clear. The tag on the article which is still unresolved says "please consider assisting in the merger instead of re-nominating the article for deletion". Colonel Warden (talk) 12:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I mentioned above why I don't think the merger is feasible anymore, if it was then -- I was going to merge it myself until I realized where it was supposed to be merged. (Not that I think my opinion is above anyone else's -- it's certainly not.) Where would any of this information be put in the Poodle article? It's an article about the Poodle breed first and foremost, not a repository for various -doodles and -poos.

The mix still lacks sources that are considered reliable and give it more than a passing mention. — anndelion ※ 19:16, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete if no sources can be found, Merge as per previous discussion if they can. Miyagawa (talk) 18:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as per the previous AfD consensus. - SudoGhost (talk) 02:55, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question -- I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, just get an explanation here: can you give a good example of exactly how the article in its present state is supposed to be merged into the Poodle article? Where will the information fit? — anndelion ❋ 03:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I would suggest trimming the information down, expanding Poodle#Poodle_mixes and including it in that section. - SudoGhost (talk) 03:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The issue I see with that is that that article's topic is the Poodle breed, which is very important on its own; I don't think it's really a place to brief all of the poodle mixes (there are hundreds of them -- because of their "hypoallergenic" coat, almost every breed is being crossed with a Poodle, the puppies advertised under names like "Cockapoo" and "Doodleman Pinscher"). I do think a more realistic place to merge it, if that's the consensus, is List of dog hybrids, but that page says:

"There is a very large number of possible combinations, and the following table only lists those most often bred deliberately."

I haven't seen any sources indicating the Pugapoo is among those most often bred deliberately, considering I couldn't find reliable sources at all. — anndelion ❋ 04:00, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:11, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question What about merging these "-oodle" pages all into the existing Poodle hybrids page and expanding that? As for the other designer dogs, has a designer dog page been considered? since there are sooo many (there are something like 400 recognised breeds of dog, a cross for each one would be something like 79,800 articles about designer breeds). - Keetanii (talk) 14:08, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete if it cannot be merged into an existing article. Finding good sources at this stage for designer breeds would be impossible. There would be nothing in terms of academic research done on health or genetics, history is extremely limited, there are (minimal?/no?) breed standards to go off for general appearance sections. - Keetanii (talk) 14:08, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.