Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Puerto Rican Ice Hockey Federation

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The result was speedy delete. G7 Ronhjones ^(Talk) 23:53, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Puerto Rican Ice Hockey Federation[edit]

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The organization seems to be a one-man business, set by certain Philip Painter. I do not see any evidence that it was ever recognized by anybody. Ymblanter (talk) 16:17, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Puerto Rico-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 16:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:: reliable & independent secondary sources covering the Federation:

Yahoo! Sports: [1]
the International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF): [2]
the National Hockey League (NHL): [3]

I'd rather listen to the input from the WP:HOCKEY guys as i'm completely unfamiliar with this subject.

—Ahnoneemoos (talk) 17:25, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Happy to chip in. I can't speak for other project members, but this is the first time I've ever heard of such a federation. Reading through those articles, I'm struck with that they don't discuss this "Federation" in "significant detail," as WP:GNG requires ... and scarcely at all. What they do discuss is the state of the sport in Puerto Rico -- to wit, nonexistent -- in a fluff piece fashion consonant with those debarred under WP:ROUTINE: "This is especially true of the brief, often light and amusing (for example bear-in-a-tree or local-person-wins-award), stories that frequently appear in the back pages of newspapers or near the end of nightly news broadcasts ("And finally" stories)." When one of the stories states outright that there are just a half-dozen people interested in playing hockey, no dedicated rink, no ice time and no games, you don't have a "federation" -- you've got a wannabe promoter, and that doesn't pass any notability bars. Ravenswing 21:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to failing WP:GNG (as WP:NHOCKEY doesn't have criteria for federations), as well reasoned by Ravenswing. I'd also add that as the federation lacks recognition from the IIHF or other governing bodies its claim to be the governing body is not independently confirmed. Ravendrop 03:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
delete fails WP:ORG. No evidence of actual organized ice hockey being played in Puerto Rico. LibStar (talk) 09:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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