Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prince François, Count of Clermont
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The result was keep. Courcelles 00:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Prince François, Count of Clermont[edit]
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Unable to find any reliable sources to verify the contents of this long-standing unreferenced BLP in order to establish notability. Does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. J04n(talk page) 00:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. —J04n(talk page) 00:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Sources appear to exist.[1] Whether enough are available to establish notability is another question. Edward321 (talk) 02:56, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. There are reliable sources out there: The New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, and the Miami Herald. He's a verified member of the French Royal Family. The article should be cleaned up, not deleted.--hkr Laozi speak 06:41, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Question This individual's chief fame to notability is that he is one of the leading claimants of an extinct title -- King of France. While it is interesting to know who these people are, is there any tangible or identifiable value to his claim -- or that of his father & other relatives? Even something along the lines of social status which can be verified? If not, maybe this article -- & those on other Orelanist pretenders -- can be consolidated into a simple list, which would more succinctly appease the curiosity of people who are fascinated with such trivia. (Like me, I'll admit.) -- llywrch (talk) 22:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- How about a redirect to House of Orléans#Contemporary family? The articles listed above really just show that he exists but confer no notability, remember notability is not inherited. J04n(talk page) 00:39, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as person is notable for the claim of Crown of France.--Yopie (talk) 02:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Sources exist per Edward321, is also notable per lineage/royal heritage in this case. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: if consensus is to keep this article, and I'm not convinced that being in a member of a lineage that has not held the crown in 150 year is notable, I would like to point out that it remains an unsourced WP:BLP, with the links mentioned above behind pay walls. So if not deleted or redirected, it should be userfied or sent to the incubator until it is properly sourced. J04n(talk page) 00:33, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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