Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prende

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The result was keep. Merging can be considered at editors' discretion, but it appears that some additional sourcing leads to a consensus to keep the article in some form. ~ mazca ^talk 14:54, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prende[edit]

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Unsourced article on an alleged figure of Albanian folk mythology. Was originally sourced to "Encyclopedia Mythica", recently debunked as a thoroughly unreliable source (Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive214#Unreliable source alert: "Encyclopedia Mythica" (pantheon.org)) Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Update: This source, Elsie's Dictionary of Albanian religion, mythology and folk culture, describes "Prende" as a synonym of "Saint Paraskevi" or "Saint Veneranda" (Paraskevi of Rome in Christian tradition), though possibly connected to the cult of a pre-Christian goddess. Might be worth merging. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:02, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Multiple sources verify that Prende was a distinct Albanian mythological figure: (1) PRENDE is an ancient Illyrian love-goddess who was the consort of the thunder-god Perendi", (2) "Prende (north Albanian Prenne) Old Illyrian goddess of love, the female partner of the thunder-god ... 'queen of beauty' ... As is usual in many cultures, here too Friday is the day sacred to the goddess of love.", (3) "Lady Prende (Geg Zoja Prenne), also known as the Lady of Beauty (Geg Zoja e bukuris), was venerated in northern Albania in particular by women. On her feast day, July 26, ...". — C M B J 23:19, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:32, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:34, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Can't access Elsie's dictionary now (used it way too many times), but we have this online article on Prende The third saint to be mentioned in connection with the Albanians is rather special because, strictly speaking, she does not really exist. Saint Veneranda, Albanian Shënepremte or Prende, known in Geg dialect as Prenne or Petka -- Greek Paraskevi, Ag. Paraskeuhv, Romanian Sfânta Paraschiva, was originally a pre-Christian deity and came to be identified by the Catholic Church with Saint Anne, mother of the Virgin Mary. In Albania, she is known at any rate as Saint Veneranda. [1]. Basically the pre-Christian Prende was identified with Saint Ann in Christian times, however Elsie specifically mentions that Prende was a pre-Christian deity. In addition to Elsie, we also have other sources. --_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 14:59, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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