Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pranic healing

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The result was keep. —SW— ^prattle 22:38, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pranic healing[edit]

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Prana is ~~an Indian word~~ most commonly translated by the Western new-age as energy. Likewise pranic healing refers to the exact same concept as energy medicine. This page is redundant because we already have a page for the exact same topic but using the more common English translation. We should use English titles where possible and redirect as appropriate. Non-notable synonym for energy medicine. The only available reference for this topic is one which disputes it's existance as a valid field. The other reference appears to ba an advert for a book on natropathy. Salimfadhley (talk) 15:52, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Propose delete of this article (there's nothing worth saving) + redirect to energy medicine.

Keep You can find a lot of reliable sources (dated from the 1980s) regarding "Pranic healing" in the G-News archives, see for example The Times of India, Daily News and Analysis, The Hindu etc (not only Indian, but also African and European media). It means that this healing method is noted and popular. There's a possibility and potential to build up a good and informative article about it. Btw, are you sure it is a synonym for energy medicine? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

'Response According to the article: Pranic healing is an alternative medicinal practice that claims to use prana or life energy to heal ailments in the body. This would strongly suggest that Prana (and therefore Pranic Healing) is simply referring to the same esoteric concept as Energy in energy medicine. --Salimfadhley (talk) 16:25, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is a work in progress, unfinished and developing. We should consider the potential of a topic, not just current state. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:37, 23 March 2012 (UTC) P.S. The article itself cannot serve as an evidence for similar hypotheses. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:41, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Many, many hits at GBooks and GScholar as well as GNews. Not all of these hits can be taken as indicators of notability, of course, but among the more reliable ones, note for example the serious study of the Pranic healing movement in Religion, entitled "A new religious and healing movement in the Philippines", abstract here. And I don't understand why the nominator considers the existing "skeptical" source "nothing worth saving". Whether this topic should be merged with other similar practices can be discussed elsewhere, but there is certainly enough source material to consider this notable.--Arxiloxos (talk) 16:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
From what I can tell Pranic Healing is an Indian/Eastern synonym for energy medicine. The language and jargon (chakras, energy) is much the same. Refer to the Times of India link above which provides a definition that is indistinguishable from that of Energy Medicine. The skptical source is a good one, I felt that an article assertign the notabilty of a topic should consist some notable proponents in addition to those who believe it is nonsense. --Salimfadhley (talk) 16:51, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Prana. Not enough information here to merge. Alternatively, redirect to Energy medicine but I feel the article Prana is more closely related. --MelanieN (talk) 20:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd propose that Pranic Healing -> Energy Medicine, Prana -> Energey (esotericism). FYI, having reviewed even more (painful) docs on this very silly topic: "Energy" is just the English new-age translation of a bunch of much older words: Prana, Qi, Life-Force... whatever. I could see the justification in having two articles if the concepts were substantially different, but in this case there's really no difference at all other than the language. --Salimfadhley (talk) 22:30, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment re-reading the sources I now realize that I got this totally wrong. Pranic Healing is not an ancient Indian art at all, it's actually the registered trademark of a Korean author who came up with the concept in 1987. The links provided by Vejvančický give the game away - each of them mentions the Korean founder. The only thing I got right was that Western new-agers use the word Prana almost interchangeably with other more familiar terms such as "energy" or "qi". --Salimfadhley (talk) 23:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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