Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Polish Atrocities

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy Deleted by DGG - procedural close. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 20:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Polish Atrocities[edit]

This article seems to exist only as an attack. Can it be speedied? ChildofMidnight (talk) 15:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete under G10: Attack Page. Also fails WP:NPOV.--S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 18:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect. In principle, I agree with S Marshall that an article can gather together under one roof several events that, by themselves, are notable, NPOV, and non-attacking, and yet, by their selection and assembly, create an article amounting to an attack page for purposes of WP:CSD 10 (or a WP:SYN violation). Such constructions are not necessarily so, however; for example, there is also a page German atrocities, redirecting to German war crimes. I have no idea which side of the line the nom'd article falls, frankly, and at the risk of making a WP:WAX faux pas, is there a difference between this article and that article other than the POV problems with the nominated article? If not, I would think the remedy would ordinarily be improvement rather than deletion.

On the other hand, WP:ATP directs that "[i]f the subject of the article is notable, but the existing page consists primarily of personal attacks against that subject and there's no good revision to revert to, then the attack page should be deleted and an appropriate stub article should be written in its place." There isn't a good version to revert to, but I can't imagine what a stub would say - "Poland has done some bad things in the past"? - so that solution isn't a perfect fit, either.

All told, I think the best remedy is that the content be merged into History of Poland - the editors of which are better-placed than I am to evaluate its accuracy, balance, and weighting - and/or the nom'd article be redirected thereto. - Simon Dodd { U·T·C·WP:LAW } 18:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment--my concern is to avoid giving offence, so if Simon Dodd's suggestion is followed, I would recommend the article in question be userfied or otherwise blanked from the main Wikipedia space while the merge is in progress.--S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 19:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. SYN-based attack article.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:44, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. This is a G10 hate page consisting of snippets copy-pasted from other articles with some empty refs for example in Russian to what looks like a nationalist portal such as this one, or this one, which doesn’t support anything at all. A bad case of WP:POINT – which the anonymous user attempted to hotlink from the Poland article.[1] --Poeticbent talk 19:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Bunch of "bolonies". Not worth any comment.--Jacurek (talk) 20:01, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete. This is just a hate article, I'm sure any country you care to name has done something that someone somewhere would call atrocious. La Kiwi 19:59, 30 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcollis (talk • contribs)
Speedy delete and I just did exactly that. If somebody wants to do a proper summary article on some specific parts of this it might just conceivably be defensible as Simon Dodd says, but this is a hopeless biased broad-based attack. DGG (talk) 20:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.