Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PokerStars Big Game

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The result was no consensus. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PokerStars Big Game[edit]

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TV poker game. No evidence of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:00, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Poker After Dark has a Wiki article and it's basically the same show in the same time slot, just on a different network. Also, I appreciate that it has a Wiki page since I heard about the show, and came to Wiki looking to learn more info about it. It would suck if this option weren't available to others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki4Life (talk • contribs) 09:53, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It's on FOX (okay, it's aired in the wee hours, but still) with top poker players participating, e.g. Phil Hellmuth, Daniel Negreanu. It may not get a lot of notice in the non-poker world, but there appears to be plenty in the poker community.[1][2][3] Clarityfiend (talk) 00:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Yes, it aired on Fox. But it aired in that grey area of time-buy where Pokerstars.net bought the timeslot to air it under a paid programming arrangement, and lots of networks and other unnotable organizations partake in this practice. There needs to be a major finding of sources for this to meet notability. Nate • (chatter) 04:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Brand new show, airing on FOX with a large amount of notables. Covered by Card Player Magazine, PokerNewsDaily, the www.examiner.com, and ESPN go. I believe that should cover any doubts regarding notability. Valoem ^talk 18:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If someone would source the article out, it'd probably cover the doubts regarding notability. Carrite (talk) 17:27, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Sounds like a show I'd like to watch, but this smacks of paid programming. No demonstration of notability. Carrite (talk) 17:26, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The links by Clarityfiend above are interesting but don't resolve what is for me the big question: is this paid commercial programming or a "legitimate" national TV show? Carrite (talk) 17:32, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is a legitmate TV show, if the links from Clarityfiend weren't enough you can watch clips on Youtube. Just because it is in the paid programming slot time does not mean it is paid programming per citations. Valoem ^talk 16:33, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment FWIW, the show also airs nationally in Canada on Rogers Sportsnet. (Don't ask me how poker became a sport.) Reso lute 21:12, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.