Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pixilated Theory
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sandstein 06:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Pixilated Theory[edit]
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Band does not meet any of the music group notability guidelines. Little significant coverage in reliable (i.e. non-blog) independent sources. Contested speedy and PROD. MikeWazowski (talk) 18:46, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep ~In my opinion the following have been met according to the wikipedia guidelines -
- 1. "Has won or placed in a major music competition." - Makeastar Competition that has been listed
- 2. "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc." - Makeastar was shown on the FUSETV Network (A Major network).
- 3. "Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network." Sirius XMU on Sirius Satellite Radio and LIVE365 a major internet radio network.
- 4. "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself." - RadioIndy's Team has Reviewed the group.
- 5. "Has won or been nominated for a major music award" - GrIndie Award
- - The Group's album sales are also the top on CDBaby (which is listed on wikipedia as notable). However, since CDBaby changes the top seller page rotation, I have yet to find a suitable citation for the page. Dan o d 1988 (talk) 19:01, 12 July 2011 (UTC)— Dan o d 1988 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Comment - In response to your claims, re: #1) "Won or placed" means either they were a finalist, or they won. This is not the case - they were one of "over 200 bands and solo artists who uploaded their music videos to MakeAStar.com to compete for a $10,000 grand prize in the Original Music Contest." A clip was shown on TV - that's not winning or placing. Re: #2)they did not perform music *for* FuseTV, the MakeAStar program just included a 20 second clip of them as part of a bracket. That's almost the textbook definition of a trivial mention. Re: #3) You keep making this claim, but it's completely unreferenced (or poorly referenced) in the article. Re:#4) The RadioIndy blog is not a reliable source - which also means that #5 is shot, as the GrIndie Award is hardly a major music award. Your CDbaby claims are not corroborated by the CDbaby website, which makes the claims incredibly suspect. MikeWazowski (talk) 19:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments to the response - #1 In order to be featured on the television showing on FUSETV, they had to be a finalist. Therefore, they had to have placed to appear on said show. #2 I'll give you that they did not perform for FUSETV itself. However, like I said in #1, they had to be a finalist to appear on the television show. #3 Still trying to locate the site I found for this reference. I thought I put it in the article, but due to MikeWazowski's continued deletion and editing of different references/information I put in the article, I am presently confounded by what/why things are missing in the article now. I am also still looking for legit references that the group has been played on KTBG (A notable station according to Wikipedia) in Warrensburg, Missouri as I have heard them played on this station before. Please be patient with me as I find new information on the subject since I am new to wikipedia and constant bartering over deletion of this article is reducing my efficiency to create a decent article. #4 I am still puzzled at the continued denial of RadioIndy, as RadioIndy itself is not a blog. I'm guessing that the blog-format in how they give awards is what might be the problem. If I give you an alternative link for the review "Pixilated Theory on RadioIndy" would this resolve the issue surrounding the review? #5 -see #4- -- As for the CDBaby Deal, I believe that the two songs I listed on the article were top sellers for the month of June 2011. Thus, since it is July 2011 they are no longer listed on the reference page I listed. It will continue to search for this information as I have mentioned ^ above. I would be extremely beneficial if I could get some assistance by others on the article to improve it. Dan o d 1988 (talk) 23:19, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - In response to your claims, re: #1) "Won or placed" means either they were a finalist, or they won. This is not the case - they were one of "over 200 bands and solo artists who uploaded their music videos to MakeAStar.com to compete for a $10,000 grand prize in the Original Music Contest." A clip was shown on TV - that's not winning or placing. Re: #2)they did not perform music *for* FuseTV, the MakeAStar program just included a 20 second clip of them as part of a bracket. That's almost the textbook definition of a trivial mention. Re: #3) You keep making this claim, but it's completely unreferenced (or poorly referenced) in the article. Re:#4) The RadioIndy blog is not a reliable source - which also means that #5 is shot, as the GrIndie Award is hardly a major music award. Your CDbaby claims are not corroborated by the CDbaby website, which makes the claims incredibly suspect. MikeWazowski (talk) 19:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - There is no coverage in reliable sources (none whatsoever) to meet general notability. With respect to meeting WP:BAND, I disagree that they meet any of them. Make A Star isn't a major music competition; it's just another music competition. They haven't composed a theme for a TV series. Satellite radio is a highly fractured channel, and the internet isn't a major broadcast medium for the purposes of notability. And GrIndie isn't a major music award. Good luck to them, but they don't meet the inclusion criteria for Wikipedia. -- Whpq (talk) 13:54, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 14:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete due to the lack of coverage, CDBaby sales are not a national chart and Whpq is right about the other above claims. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:32, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I applaud Dan o d 1988 for attempting to find sources to fulfill the notability criteria for bands, but the sources do fall short. I thought there might be some compounding quality across all the sources, but many of them are not appropriate. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 07:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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