Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Piotr Hallmann

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was userfy. The article may be moved back into the mainspace or submitted to AFC when and if the subject meets notability guidelines in the future. (non-admin closure) Michaelzeng7 (talk) 03:26, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article has been userfied to the page creator's userspace. You can find it at User:Crickz99/Piotr Hallmann. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 03:31, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Piotr Hallmann[edit]

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Notability not established - has not fought in any top tier organization. Peter Rehse (talk) 10:23, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 10:23, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak Keep or~~ Userfy - As he is currently signed with a top-tier promotion (the UFC) and has a fight booked. I generally don't favor deleting articles for active fighters that have the potential to pass WP:NMMA in the future (WP:CRYSTALBALL, I know...) but at least I would like to see someone WP:USERFY the article and recreate it if he gets three fights. Luchuslu (talk) 13:07, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy Subject currently has no top tier fights so he fails WP:NMMA and he lacks the significant coverage required for GNG. Assuming he'll get 3 UFC fights is clearly CRYSTALBALL, but since he may get them I'd rather save someone the trouble of recreating the article if he does.Mdtemp (talk) 14:40, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is ridiculous, there are at least 100 articles about lesser known fighters and nobody is against them. The person (not "subject") is signed by the biggest organization in the world (multi-fight deal) and has a fight coming up. In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts/MMA_notability there is a criteria called "Subject of multiple independent articles/documentaries--articles should be from national or international media, not just local coverage." which is definitely fulfilled if you look at Google for a few seconds.Crickz99 (talk) 17:40, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know this is your first article, but you may want to review some of Wikipedia's policies. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS explains that each article is evaluated on its own merits, WP:NOTNEWSPAPER explains that routine sports coverage does not show notability, and WP:NMMA explains what the notability criteria is for MMA fighters. Papaursa (talk) 18:34, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Userfy I agree with the previous userfy comments--the subject does not currently seem to meet any notability guidelines, but he may if he stays with the UFC long enough and I'd prefer to save the work already done (at least for the time being). Saving it to Crickz99's sandbox seems reasonable to me. Papaursa (talk) 18:34, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.